FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression Web!

	Home Register Search Help Login

Sponsors

Hosting from $3.99 per month!

Shopping Cart Software
Ecommerce software integrated into Frontpage, Dreamweaver and Golive templates. No monthly fees and available in ASP and PHP versions. dd

Website Templates
We also have a wide selection of Dreamweaver, Expression Web and Frontpage templates as well as webmaster tools and CSS layouts.

Frontpage website templates
Creative Website Templates for FrontPage, Dreamweaver, Flash, SwishMax

Search Forums

Recent Posts

Todays Posts
Most Active posts
Posts since last visit
My Recent Posts
Mark posts read

FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression Web!

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> Web Development >> General Web Development >> FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression Web!

Page: [1] 2 next > >>


WantToLearn Posts: 109 Joined: 10/19/2002 Status: offline	FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression Web! - 12/20/2006 17:52:09 I created a macro that re-enables the ability to insert new Includes and Search Form bots from the Insert menu in Expression Web. Inspired by the code-snippet workaround, this macro brings back one-click insertion of Includes and the Search Form bot. Enjoy! http://www.firstexpression.com/quicktips/free-tools.htm Alternate Link http://liahona.org/fpbotmacro/ < Message edited by WantToLearn -- 12/23/2006 18:47:22 >


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5479 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/20/2006 18:57:25 It asks for a username/password. _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to WantToLearn)


WantToLearn Posts: 109 Joined: 10/19/2002 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/20/2006 19:04:14 Ooops..... Sorry about that. It should work now. Try it again and let me know. Thanks (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


Thomas Brunt Posts: 6118 Joined: 6/6/1998 From: St. Matthews SC USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/21/2006 9:39:16 This is so SWEET! t (in reply to WantToLearn)


Thomas Brunt Posts: 6118 Joined: 6/6/1998 From: St. Matthews SC USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/21/2006 9:41:11 I don't suppose you could figure out a way to get the FP navigation view to run in EW? It runs in sharepoint designer, so it's thearetically possible. t (in reply to Thomas Brunt)


jaybee Posts: 14207 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/21/2006 10:22:51 Isn't that going to bring back all the vti_cnf files? I thought the whole point of moving to EW is that it's not FP. You're trying to turn it back into FP rather than learning the new way. EW has snippets does it not? So you work out the code to replace the bots once and shove it in snippets. I understand, bots are what you're used to and it's quicker right now but we all have to bite the bullet at some stage. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Thomas Brunt)


Thomas Brunt Posts: 6118 Joined: 6/6/1998 From: St. Matthews SC USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/21/2006 10:27:27 I feel that it depends upon your needs. t (in reply to jaybee)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5479 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/21/2006 13:56:13 quote: You're trying to turn it back into FP rather than learning the new way. - I never used bots because I didn't want to learn another way (I already knew how to code them myself). Bots were useful to me to save time. Within a few clicks, I can have certain things up and running with ease. Very nice macro! _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to Thomas Brunt)


ContentSeed Posts: 55 Joined: 10/11/2004 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/21/2006 16:29:48 Slick. You should be proud of this! _____________________________ ContentSeed is an excellent tool for web professionals and a tremendous convenience for their clients. ContentSeed will change the way you do business. (in reply to WantToLearn)


Lee3 Posts: 3 From: None Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 11:24:33 Thank you!!!Thank you!!!Thank you!!!Thank you!!!Thank you!!!Thank you!!! I really appreciate the include macro. I guess I need to be mindful of the Macro Police! Are they a division of NSA or Homeland Security? Just as a point of order, Microsoft on their website indicated that an Include Menu Button would be available in the near future. I don't think the use of macros is a de-evolutionary step, however, there are still a lot of people who are film only purists. _____________________________ (in reply to WantToLearn)


jaybee Posts: 14207 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 12:58:52 I'm not saying that Macros shouldn't be used, if you'd bothered to check before tagging me as the Macro Police you might have realised that what I was unhappy about was the use of them to bring back the old bots. The use of Macros is not a problem as long as what is produced is clean code. The FP bots produced bad code. For those of us who develop sites that validate and are accessible to people with disabilities they are a liability and not something to be welcomed back with open arms. I'm sure MS are producing add-ons but that doesn't mean they'll just harvest the old stuff from FP. Given the work that's gone in to making EW compliant it'd be suicide. Finally, just because other people don't immediately jump up and down with glee doesn't mean they're wrong, morons or any other names you would probably like to place on them. If you wish to use backward engineering like that then please do but don't expect me to be delighted at the dumbing down of what was shaping up to be a decent product. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Lee3)


Thomas Brunt Posts: 6118 Joined: 6/6/1998 From: St. Matthews SC USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 14:17:20 The include page bot does not produce invalid code. The search bot is mighty handy one way or the other. t (in reply to jaybee)


WantToLearn Posts: 109 Joined: 10/19/2002 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 16:21:52 Providing backward compatibility is not necessarily dumbing down a product. The addition of tools to use the FP webbots doesn't stop anyone from using the new functionality of EW nor does it take anything away from EW. I believe it even makes it easier for people to transition and it might even attract more people to use EW. Personally, I use master pages/dwt now instead of includes but a lot of people use and like includes and they are very handy. Why not give people a choice? (in reply to jaybee)


Tailslide Posts: 6368 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: online	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 16:39:59 As someone who doesn't use either FP or EW I have a question - what's the advantage of of using FP type include bots rather than normal includes (PHP or SSI etc etc and I know that EW can't manage to work with PHP). _____________________________ Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Land Rover project (in reply to WantToLearn)


kboy Posts: 38 From: Ellijay GA USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 17:01:58 The "Include" feature is one of the most important one to me. This feature does NOT rely on the FrontPage Extensions but as far as I know the "Search Bot" does. One of the advantages of EW is that it can run on any Windows server without the need for extensions. Will this Search Bot require for the FP extensions to be on the remote server? Many thanks, Con (in reply to WantToLearn)


Tailslide Posts: 6368 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: online	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 17:25:12 So it doesn't need FP extensions which I guess is good - but what's the advantage over normal SSI? _____________________________ Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Land Rover project (in reply to kboy)


WantToLearn Posts: 109 Joined: 10/19/2002 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 17:53:31 I don't know of any advantage Includes have over SSI. (in reply to Tailslide)


Thomas Brunt Posts: 6118 Joined: 6/6/1998 From: St. Matthews SC USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 18:15:23 No advantages. I don't see any disadvantages either. It's quick and easy. You can edit an include page in wiswyg mode which is fast and painless. If you're used to it, and you want to use it, then you're going to want this macro. t (in reply to WantToLearn)


Thomas Brunt Posts: 6118 Joined: 6/6/1998 From: St. Matthews SC USA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 12/22/2006 18:17:56 It's sometimes very handy to use includes in dwt's when you're putting the same navigation into different page layouts. The include page makes it very fast to do that without having to type any code. t (in reply to Thomas Brunt)


atahawaii Posts: 5 Joined: 2/11/2004 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression... - 12/23/2006 3:19:39 Thanks so much. Been doing this by cutting and pasting HTML. This bot makes it a lot easier. (in reply to WantToLearn)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5479 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression... - 12/24/2006 19:59:41 You can insert includes with ease. It doesn't rely on any changes to your page name (such as re-naming your page to .shtml). FP includes no longer limit your includes to server based, so you can use FP includes anywhere. _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to atahawaii)


Linda5630 Posts: 104 Joined: 9/29/2002 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression... - 1/3/2007 18:57:11 I just ordered the EW upgrade; I'm still using the Beta version. I can't open macros or VB Editor. It initially appears in black but after I click on VB Editor it goes nowhere and is grayed out. Is that because I'm using the Beta version, or because I'm doing something wrong? Thanks. Linda (in reply to WantToLearn)


WantToLearn Posts: 109 Joined: 10/19/2002 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression... - 1/5/2007 21:23:09 quote: ORIGINAL: Linda5630 I just ordered the EW upgrade; I'm still using the Beta version. I can't open macros or VB Editor. It initially appears in black but after I click on VB Editor it goes nowhere and is grayed out. Is that because I'm using the Beta version, or because I'm doing something wrong? Thanks. Linda I've never seen or heard of that behavior in EW so I would guess it's because you're using the beta. Let us know if it still behaves that way after the upgrade. (in reply to Linda5630)


Linda5630 Posts: 104 Joined: 9/29/2002 Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro For Expression... - 1/5/2007 21:48:16 I will. Thanks. Linda (in reply to WantToLearn)


tinaalice Posts: 98 From: Stockport, Cheshire. UK Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 1/20/2007 11:08:05 Tailside The advantages to server side includes are that you can see the results on your hard drive. You don't need to use a particular file extenstion and thereby have to dilute your seo. They DON'T need FPSE they work or without. The are particulary usefule for navigation ....and extremly useful in navigation with a dwt ... the control you have over your menus is extended even more. There are two free addon includes and a workaround if you don't care for addons, the second link explains how to implement that and the first explains how to utilise them, it's written for fp03 but it's similar. Note: .. if anyone was having a problem with Mike's addon include, with multiple links on the insert menu, that has now been fixed. Ditto anyone using the pm addon that was throwing an error that's been fixed also. FrontPage Include Tutorial http://anyfrontpage.com/ezine/va/frontpage-includes.htm Expression Design Time Includes http://any-expression.com/expression-web/tutorials/insert-include-pages.htm hth Tina _____________________________ Expression Web Help Expression Web Blog FrontPage Help - FrontPage Tutorials Any Expression List Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web (in reply to Tailslide)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 2/22/2007 16:14:36 Need some help here with EWD & FP includes... I don't mind just copying the FP include code into the source (of EWD) when needed but although this works when viewing the page in EWD design view if I try to view the page in any browser it doesn't include the include, which FP did. Am I missing something extra required for the webbot include code to work properly with EWD? [BTW... one person asked if there is any advantage to FP includes over other SSI includes - for me the answer is absolutely, yes! With FP includes I could preview my pages both in FP and all installed browsers BEFORE uploading and it didn't require use of either php or asp or FP extensions! - ideal for small sites only though as new include content meant uploading all linking pages afresh] _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to Thomas Brunt)


swoosh Posts: 1438 Joined: 5/18/2002 From: Beaver Falls, PA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 5/15/2007 9:50:25 quote: Need some help here with EWD & FP includes... I don't mind just copying the FP include code into the source (of EWD) when needed but although this works when viewing the page in EWD design view if I try to view the page in any browser it doesn't include the include, which FP did. Am I missing something extra required for the webbot include code to work properly with EWD? I am having the same problem here. Site created in FP now in EW, uploaded and everything is fine even with INCLUDES...but if I edit the page in any manner, say typing one character or something the include doesn't appear!!!!!!!!!! but does in design view..........WHAT AM I MISSING? _____________________________ Swoooosh Just Do It! (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 5/15/2007 15:34:47 Hi Swoosh This is a case of good news - bad news... The good news is: The problem was resolved for me. The bad news... I can't remember how right now! I do remember it was something very simple that was the problem though - I will try to rack my brains and let you know what it was. _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to swoosh)


swoosh Posts: 1438 Joined: 5/18/2002 From: Beaver Falls, PA Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 5/15/2007 15:44:12 please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS DRIVING ME UP A WALL _____________________________ Swoooosh Just Do It! (in reply to RickP)


tinaalice Posts: 98 From: Stockport, Cheshire. UK Status: offline	RE: FP Include Page and Search Bot Macro! - 5/18/2007 17:19:03 have you tried double clicking on the include and browsing to the correct file again? ... they disapper a lot in design view but usually .. i can't remember it happening .. appear ok in the browser... i just double click and go browse that usually makes them appear again.. save the page and refresh.. recalulate hyperlinks... hth Tina _____________________________ Expression Web Help Expression Web Blog FrontPage Help - FrontPage Tutorials Any Expression List Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web (in reply to swoosh)