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Mojo
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Time to change your copyright dates - 1/2/2007 14:02:20
Just a reminder - It's time to change those statements of - copyright 2006 to 2007.
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Tailslide
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/2/2007 15:13:56
I seem to remember reading on here that you don't need to change this yearly and that just specifying it initially is all you need to do. I have no idea which approach is correct.
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Mojo
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/2/2007 15:36:33
Hmmm.... I never automated my dates. I have them in SSI files so there is just a single file to change for each site, but it would be much better to do it your way. Thanks for the tip.
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BobbyDouglas
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/2/2007 18:08:04
I just started to automate the dates now. For sites that say "in business for XX years" I have something like this setup: in business for <?php echo (date("Y") - 1929); ?> years Also, I have heard that in the US, everything is automatically protected, without putting the copyright note on the page. Anyone else hear that?
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caz
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/2/2007 18:53:23
The format I use is the date of publication followed by a "-" eg. XXXXXXXX©2005- This means that the site and contents are protected from 2005 to date or, 2005 onwards. Should there be a new edition then the date of publication will of course change but additions only to the existing site don't require new dates. Copyright in the UK is automatic on publication, but that is not the case in all countries.
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Mojo
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/2/2007 18:59:02
In the U.S. - I think the date helps avoid confusion like jaybee said - Also, testing has shown that it can slightly increase conversion rates. It may help web businesses appear larger than what they may be. If you ever want to get serious about collect money for copyright violation I believe you need a registered copyright. http://www.legalzoom.com/law_library/copyrights/registration.html
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 0:38:38
For the php auto date version to work, don't you have to rename your pages with the extension of .php? Here's a JS version that works with htm pages: © 2000-<script language = 'JavaScript'> <!-- function y2k(number) { return (number < 1000) ? number + 1900 : number; } var today = new Date(); var year = y2k(today.getYear()); document.write(+year+' all rights reserved.'); //--> </script>
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Donkey
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 7:40:39
It really is not necessary to change the year. http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#fnv quote:
Form of Notice for Visually Perceptible Copies The notice for visually perceptible copies should contain all the following three elements: 1. The symbol © (the letter C in a circle), or the word “Copyright,” or the abbreviation “Copr.”; and 2. The year of first publication of the work. In the case of compilations or derivative works incorporating previously published material, the year date of first publication of the compilation or derivative work is sufficient. The year date may be omitted where a pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work, with accompanying textual matter, if any, is reproduced in or on greeting cards, postcards, stationery, jewelry, dolls, toys, or any useful article; and 3. The name of the owner of copyright in the work, or an abbreviation by which the name can be recognized, or a generally known alternative designation of the owner. Example: © 2006 John Doe The “C in a circle” notice is used only on “visually perceptible copies.” When you think about it logically, if using a "from-to" statement is necessary you should update it every day - which would be ridiculous. I think you are all following "Conventional Wisdom" which in this case is wrong. So just amend your statement to use the date the site was first published and forget all this unnecessary hassle every year. You also don't need to say "all rights reserved" it has no legal meaning and won't give you any additional protection.
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 10:51:30
I'm sure that legally you're right Donkey, but the other way I look at it with updating the copyright date is that it shows that you've visited your own site and at least updated something recently...even if it is only the copyright date and you haven't actually visited it and done anything if you use either the PHP or JS method Kind of gives people the impression that the content's current rather than them seeing a copyright date of 1995 and thinking, "Hmmmm, I wonder if it's been updated since then...?" Having said that, I tend to use a PHP 'this page was last updated...' on some sites as well. Btw, there is also a way to do the automatic updating using Frontpage and ASP as well... Frontpage: Unfortunately FrontPage doesn't have a built in 'display the current year' function, but you can get round that and display the year your content was last updated by tweaking its 'date and time' function. - From the Insert menu, select Date and Time...and the Date and Time dialog box appears. - Select Date this page was last edited. - From the Date format pull–down list select a date format – any one will do. - Click OK. - If you're not there already, go into either Split or Code view and find the 'webbot' code that FrontPage has inserted. It'll look something like: <!--webbot bot="Timestamp" S-Type="EDITED" S-Format="%B %d, %Y" --> (depending on which date format you picked) - Edit the webbot code so it looks like this: <!--webbot bot="Timestamp" S-Type="EDITED" S-Format="%Y" --> ASP: Same as with PHP you can do it in ASP by just pasting the code in where you want the date to appear: <% Response.Write DatePart("ww", Date()) %>
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 10:55:36
A quick sample of some major sites shows most use Copyright [current year] as the most popular format Wall Street Journal - Copyright 2007 Google - Copyright 2007 New York Times - Copyright 2007 LegalZoom.com - Copyright 2006 (they haven't changed the date yet) Yahoo.com Copyright 2007 Jaybee has a good point about how long it shows you have been in business. Trust is huge for online sales and that little reminder that your site has been around from 2000 to 2007 could be much better than a simple copyright 2000 - which could appear that you haven't updated your site in seven years.
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 11:47:55
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Trust is huge for online sales and that little reminder that your site has been around from 2000 to 2007 could be much better than a simple copyright 2000 - which could appear that you haven't updated your site in seven years Bingo! I'm sales/marketing oriented and am convinced that this and similar subliminal messages intangibly accrue to the advantage of savvy entrepreneurs everywhere.
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caz
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 13:34:06
I think that you are in danger of confusing two issues here - 1. copyright - the date the work was first published and, 2. currency - how up to date is this work? These are the most important questions that readers want answered and the copyright statement answers the first of these, the second is answered by revision dates and date last updated. So to be safe we use both. The fact that both together indicate how long a person has been in business is just that - an indication, nothing more. Better records of trading can be found elsewhere.
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rubyaim
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RE: Time to change your copyright dates - 1/3/2007 17:46:32
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ASP: Same as with PHP you can do it in ASP by just pasting the code in where you want the date to appear: <% Response.Write DatePart("ww", Date()) %> That will return the week of the year. For the actual year (eg 2007): <% Response.Write DatePart("yyyy", Date()) %> FWIW I've been using this format for the copyright: © 1997 - 2007 I like the way Donkey has the copyright and the revised date together - I've been keeping them separate but may change the way it is presented. Not that it really matters on an Intranet unless ex-employees appropriate some of the info before departing, and if that happens we probably have bigger problems than copyright to worry about.
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