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Before buying Vista - 1/30/2007 11:35:17
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Windows Vista is officially in stores today, but before you plunk down your hard-earned cash, make sure you're getting what you expect. With Vista's ability to adjust its features based on the hardware it's on, CNET reports:
Customers who pay about $233 for an upgrade copy of Vista Ultimate (or about $399 for the full version), for instance, could essentially end up running the equivalent of Vista Home Basic ($100 to $199) if Vista's installation software finds that the computer doesn't have the hardware to run specific Ultimate features optimally.
If you're upgrading your existing PC, while it's not foolproof, give your computer a once-through with the Vista Upgrade Advisor. The checker doesn't tell you whether or not the swanky Vista features like Aero or BitLocker will work on your machine, so buying from a retailer who will back a return on the OS - like PCs for Everyone - will get you a little extra insurance.
I am staying with XP for another year, anyhow! I do not wish to affect my extensions, plug-ins and other sw I use on a daily basis.
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RE: Before buying Vista - 1/30/2007 12:22:32
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so buying from a retailer who will back a return on the OS Not a cat in Hell's chance in the UK. Open it and it's yours.
The stuff they had on the BBC today was basically saying that if your PC is more than 2 years old, forget it.
I have no intention of upgrading. XP Pro is fine. In the entire time I've been running it I've had one BSOD and it apologised to me when it came back up.
Vista is apparently more secure. Hmmmm well I wonder how long it'll be before that's proved to be rubbish. I'll bet the kiddies are working on it as we speak.
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you've said it! I don't mean to sound antagonistic to those who will be using it or to friends who have not lived through Windows Me, or earlier versions. Truth is, and you said it very clearly, a kid somewhere is trying to crack Vista. It takes years (at least for me) to stabilize a system. I saw it when I worked at Apple and then in the telcom industry. I would be crazy if I put my business through hell just to be able to use the latest eyecandy. A year is OK for me to wait for Vista.
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RE: Before buying Vista - 1/30/2007 14:25:47
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At least not for the first 2 years anyways. After that, I'd might attempt an upgrade
Besides, Vista's SP1 will take about 11 months to come out. The way I see it, they want to gather feeback from users for a while first.
jaybee, I feel you CAN exchange your software in UK. Get in touch with Mr Burro. I understand he was doing it with toasters somehow LOL!
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RE: Before buying Vista - 1/30/2007 17:44:40
I'll be installing Vista Business on my laptop in about another week. I hear MS has some pretty complex protection, it ties each serial to a motherboard. If you buy an OEM license, apparently you are not allowed to change motherboards. I've been able to install my XP Pro license on around 8 different hardware configurations, 3 of which were different motherboards.
Also, the CDs/DVDs that are shipping right now, only come with the 32bit versions, you have to pay MS to ship you the 64bit version.
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RE: Before buying Vista - 2/4/2007 21:35:11
Here is a list of just a few problems that I have become aware of:
Versions prior to QuickBooks 2007 have been rendered obsolete. This is due to the enhanced security features of Vista prevents applications from writing data files or changing executables in the Program Files directory. Intuit says:
“Your best option is to upgrade to QuickBooks 2007. Another option is to try to run QuickBooks (2004, 2005, 2006) on Windows Vista. If you do so, ALL users must be set up as Windows Administrators on their computers and must run QuickBooks in XP-Compatibility mode. Even then, you will likely experience problems such as error messages and feature failures. In addition, if you are also a Standard, Enhanced, or Assisted Payroll customer, your payroll updates will not work properly.”
Most existing Anti-virus programs. Cry babies like Symantec (Norton) and McAfee cried for months, while Trend Micro got ahead of the game. Most 2007 versions of the costly Anti-virus programs will not work out of the box. Symantec now offers upgrades for their products, as long as you use Internet Explorer to access their download site. On January 30 McAfee announced upgrades to active users. Most of these required extensive rework to get out of Vista’ no-no zone. It turns out that the best bet is the Free AVG Anti-virus
Peachtree Accounting software will not run on Windows Vista until the “second half of the year.”
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Vista's SP1 will take about 11 months to come out.
Mango, why do you believe that a Service Pack solves the problems?
When Windows XP was introduced, those of us that attended the Microsoft sponsored dinner at the Association of Personal Computer Users Group's conference. Steve Balmer was the speaker. We all went home with a full version of Windows SP Pro. I installed it two days before it was generally available. I never regretted that.
We still have Window XP club members that won't install SP2. They now have gone for two years without the benefits that were included in SP2. With the advent of the changes in Daylight Saving Time in Canada and most of the Continental United State, the update will not apply to systems without SP2.
By-the-way, IF your existing computer is capable, the upgrade install is not like most. As part of the install the Windows XP system is deleted—registry and all, then Vista is plopped in place. All future upgrades will follow the same pattern. If you buy a Vista installation disk, all versions are on that same CD. You simply buy a new key to upgrade from Vista Home Basic to Vista Ultimate.
At this years Association of Personal Computer Users Group conference we were able to use approximately 25 laptops with Windows Vista installed. All were connected to the Internet wirelessly. A great product.
Having said all of that, I will probably wait a couple of years and buy the computer of my dreams!
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RE: Before buying Vista - 2/5/2007 4:50:15
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We saw Vista in action at MS HQ at the weekend.
And they had a couple of problems with it too!
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