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take5guy -> Submit form and generate conformation page (2/3/2007 22:14:55)

I have been using FP ever since since ver 1 (it came on a stack of 3.5" floppies). I have relied on FP Extentions to do all the hard stuff. With out using FP Extentions in EW, how would I get a form to submit, email me the results and display a conformation page to the submitter? FP made this very simple and I am not sure how to do it in EW. Also, would I have to remove the FPSE from my site to do this ? Thank you for your help.



jaybee -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 5:56:35)

Fp forms are horribly insecure but if you must use them then there's an add-in for EW. Take a look at Outfront's EW tutorials page. (bar link at the top of this page)



take5guy -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 8:30:50)

Jaybee, thanks for the reply. To make myself clearer.. EW will let you create submittable forms just like FP but the host needs FPSE for them to work. If, at some point, FPSE aren't supported none of my dozens of forms are going to work. I guess what I'm asking is how would I get a form to submit, email me and display a conformation page using CGI or ASP (both of which I know nothing about)?
Thanks again

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jaybee -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 9:02:30)

You'll need a script and there are loads around the web. You might even find your host offers a cgi. Can you use PHP on your host? There's a very good PHP form that's secure. BUT, yes, you can't use publish and if you have FPSEs running then FTPing a form script up will corrupt the FPSEs. However, EW doesn't have to have FPSEs.

I'm not up on all the ins and outs of this as I don't use any of the FP nasties that require FPSE. AFAIA EW is meant to work without FPSE although it can use it if you need something backwards compatible with FP. I think EW uses Sharepoint for a lot of this stuff. Try PM/emailing Tom Brunt as he uses it a lot and will know.



take5guy -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 9:49:52)

Jaybee, thanks again. My host does have CGI but I've never used it, that I'm aware of. I guess I'll have to set up a dummy site without FPSE and experiment with it. FP made it so simple. I was hoping to find a step by step tutorial of how to get a form to submit, email and generate a conformation page using CGI. I’m playing around with EW right now in case I’m forced to move away from FP in the future.



jaybee -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 10:18:31)

Good move. Eventually you will have to do something so sooner rather than later is best. It will be a bit of a learning curve but what you end up with will be so much better and future-proofed for some considerable time.

MS don't do a complete about face just for the hell of it, it had to make business sense for them to dump FP and the FPSEs, and it's cost them a lot of money, and goodwill from the FP aficionados, so they believe it's the way forward.

As far as CGI I'd stay away. I've had nothing but problems with cgi forms. Look into asp forms (or PHP if you're on Unix). It's a bit frightening to start off with but there are plenty of scripts around you can grab to get you going. Then as you get braver you can take a peek into the code and see if you can tweak things and learn that way.

Take a look at this



dpf -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 11:06:42)

well I have been more than a bit out of touch with web stuff lately and havent tried Expressions but......... given that it appears to be heavily based on ASP.NET, I would hazard a guess that it includes full support for everything Extentions used to do but you can now do with the more powerful and standard .NET Framework. I bet its in there somewhere - it makes no sense for MS to just simply abandon the idea of its software 'meeting all your needs' - that is how they get people hooked.



take5guy -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 15:28:12)

jaybee, I went and created the form and asp file from the tutorial link you posted and uploaded it to a test site only to discover it only works on Windows servers and all of my sites are on Linux servers. But it did seem simple even though i couldn't get it to work. So in the future I might have to upgrade my hosting to Windows servers.
FrontPage was so easy, too bad Microsoft couldn't bully the world into making FPSE the standard.[:D]



jaybee -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 15:47:15)

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bully the world into making FPSE the standard
Go wash your mouth out this instant!!!!

OK, Unix host. great! Even betterer. Wonderful. In that case you can use a really nice PHP form.

Hang on I'll get the link.



jaybee -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 15:48:26)

http://green-beast.com/blog/?page_id=71

It's what I use on most of my sites.



swoosh -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/4/2007 16:17:00)

Dan,
You are correct. Full support is in there but it's not gonna be quite as simple and straight forward for those who were used to FP. Frontpage was built for the designer and therefore made things such as Database and Forms somewhat simplistic.

EW is for the Designer and Developer. Forms and Database are on the side of the developer, and should be easily done for them in EW, but for the standard FP user it will look more complicated than what FP offered



take5guy -> RE: Submit form and generate conformation page (2/5/2007 6:38:38)

I downloaded the PHP form. I will give that a try for now. Thanks



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