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VISTA - 2/6/2007 5:35:53   
Thought I'd stick this thread here for a while for folks who have made the rash decision to go to Vista and have got problems.

Warning Number 1.
As at today 6th Feb
There are NO drivers for USB modems in Vista. Users are being advised to switch to ethernet.

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RE: VISTA - 2/14/2007 11:01:16   
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Microsoft’s Vista may have hit UK shelves last week, but few creative applications from Adobe, Autodesk and others are ready to play.

Digit spoke to many developers of software for creative professionals across graphic and Web design, motion graphics, animation, 3D and video editing -- and found that many users of such applications are going to have to wait some time before upgrading to Vista.

Vista doesn’t offer any major additions for such users, but is designed to offer a more efficient and aesthetically pleasing experience through tools such as a much improved search system, tighter security from viruses and other malware, and the Aero user interface.

Most of the major software applications in this market will install and run on Vista, according to the companies we contacted, but stable use isn’t assured and official support is rare so far.

Adobe has the largest portfolio of creative products, but none of its shipping pro-level applications or suites officially support Vista. The beta version of Photoshop CS3, which is available from the Adobe Labs Web site, is designed for Windows Vista (as well as Windows XP).

All of the products in the current Creative Suite 2.3 -- Photoshop CS2, InDesign CS2, Illustrator CS2, GoLive CS2, Acrobat 8 Professional and Dreamweaver 8 -- don’t officially support Vista, Adobe says that it isn’t "currently aware of any major issues that would adversely affect customer use" of the suite on Vista. Some minor issues have been encountered, which are covered at the company’s technical knowledgebase.

Acrobat 7 Professional, which was included with the original Creative Suite 2, will not run properly under Windows Vista. Adobe says that it will release an update for Acrobat 8 – and Adobe Reader 8 – to firm up support for Vista in the first half of 2007.

All of the other applications will be upgraded when the next versions of its pro creative applications are released in the Spring and Summer of 2007, according to Adobe.

No XPress delivery for Quark on Vista

A Quark spokesperson says that the company expects to release an update for QuarkXPress 7 within the next six months that will add support for Windows Vista -- though the company says that "we will only support QuarkXPress 7 on Windows Vista when we're confident that customers will be able to use it productively and reliably in their workflows."

Few XPress 7 users are currently using Vista, notes Quark, saying that, "by the time that our customers have had the opportunity to thoroughly test Windows Vista, QuarkXPress 7 will be officially supported on this platform."

The update will be made available free to existing users of QuarkXPress 7.

Corel ahead of the game

Corel is currently the furthest ahead with adding support for Windows Vista to its creative applications. The company has released Service Packs for both its CorelDraw Graphics Suite X3 and Paint Shop Pro Photo X1 that offer official compatibility with Vista, and the new version of Painter, announced today, also has full Vista support.

Full details of the company’s Vista plans can be found at Corel Web site.


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XP hardware still available

Luckily for users in need of a new computer, workstations and laptops are still available with Windows XP from both big brands such as Dell and HP, and more specialized vendors -- and the more expensive a model is, the more likely it is to offers Windows XP as standard.

HP, for example, will not be offering pre-configured workstation models with Windows Vista until April. However, Vista can be chosen as an option through the company’s online system building system -- though such systems can take up to two weeks to be delivered.

From the information we’ve gathered, it’s clear that most creative professionals are going to want to wait until at least this summer -- when the first generation of Vista-ready suites should ship -- before upgrading or buying a new computer that runs Windows Vista.

http://www.digitmag.co.uk


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RE: VISTA - 2/14/2007 22:13:52   
jaybee

I was at a meeting with a couple of big shots from a software company and they shared an idea:

seems like most sw companies are tired of having to jump and create updates and upgrades every time MS comes up wt a 'new' OS. They are fed up with it. So, the only logical thing left is NOT to upgrade or update. they figure MS will not sell as many copies of Vista if a lot of sw is not supported.

When I heard that comment I thought they were exaggerating but now I feel it is something that will likely happen. Think of it: would you buy Vista if your sw will not be supported? I know I wouldn't.

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RE: VISTA - 2/15/2007 5:29:29   
Apparently MS are already working on the next OS which will be called Vienna. It's due for release in 2009 and they say the only reason it's so close is that Vista went past its initial release date.

In the UK we have a saying

"Goodnight Vienna"

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RE: VISTA - 2/15/2007 11:04:53   

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ORIGINAL: jaybee

Apparently MS are already working on the next OS which will be called Vienna. It's due for release in 2009 and they say the only reason it's so close is that Vista went past its initial release date.

In the UK we have a saying

"Goodnight Vienna"



How appropriate! Sort of prophetic isn't it?

I do believe that if most SW developers do not upgrade their product to MS standards, Windows would be forced to rethink its strategy. After all, MS SF (other than OS) is taking a beating left and right by open source providers. It'll be interesting to see what happens

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RE: VISTA - 2/16/2007 11:53:45   

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ORIGINAL: Mango Himself

I do believe that if most SW developers do not upgrade their product to MS standards, Windows would be forced to rethink its strategy. After all, MS SF (other than OS) is taking a beating left and right by open source providers. It'll be interesting to see what happens

Wombly's prediction (I've been reading some v. interesting essays on open source and the history of the open source movement for a course I'm doing :)) is that the open source boys are gonna give Billy-boy a good slapping and show him that's no way to run a business. When they reach a critical mass and the public at large realise that they're a more than viable alternative than being held to ransom by M$, he'd better watch out.

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RE: VISTA - 2/16/2007 16:59:10   
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I do believe that if most SW developers do not upgrade their product to MS standards, Windows would be forced to rethink its strategy.

I guess it depends on what SW it is. I work for a very large company that is committed to MS systems - if the providers of the industry specific software we use did not upgrade they would soon find themselves in trouble. SW licences and maintenance packages don't come cheap - I'd be very angry if they decided not to support Vista (not that we have switched yet, but we will). I think in our fine print contracts they can't actually decide not to support something like this.

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RE: VISTA - 2/16/2007 19:57:59   
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I think in our fine print contracts they can't actually decide not to support something like this.

Check again, you can't force companies to upgrade their software ad infinitum. I think you'll find that they will guarantee to have it work on whatever you were running when they sold it to you but there may very well be a clause that gets them out of having to follow you down the route of any weird and wonderfuls you care to install in the future.

I used to work for a software house and we'd never have agreed to a clause like that, it's corporate suicide. There would be nothing to stop you deciding to go Unix or OSX and then demanding they completely re-engineer the whole lot.

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RE: VISTA - 2/20/2007 17:34:19   
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Check again

I got our legal dept to check the contract and thankfully the software company are contracted to support MS OS and SP's etc. We are also obliged to stick with this and not suddenly decide to switch.

On this particular software we pay a hefty yearly licence fee per user as well as a hefty maintenance and support fee.

We do have some little used, non-critical software that I'd be happy to see break on Vista :)

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RE: VISTA - 7/6/2007 15:18:42   
About the only program that I have experienced that won't work on Vista is QuickBooks 2006 and prior. One of you has commented that MS forces change. Intuit does that on it's own. No support after three years. Must update if one wants to use TurboTax to import Schedule C data.

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RE: VISTA - 7/6/2007 18:35:41   
'Quickbooks 2006 and prior won't work in Vista'

Vista has a compatability mode for older software. Did you try that?

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RE: VISTA - 1/5/2008 6:04:49   
It seems that many people just jump into using vista and it was indeed disappointing that there are some lapses other details like this one and also I think there is also some problems in downloading music so there is still a need to fix vista in a way.

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