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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 13:23:36
mine isn't on the web and i deleted it (used the floppy for something else) and i did check using wayback
i did this though in about 1999/2000 or somewhere abouts http://www.davenportbrosltd.com/bodyshop1_beginning.htm (the homepage and some other page have been faffed about with some so used this page as an example)
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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 13:29:42
Without wishing to make excuses... my earliest efforts (1997-ish) were either for my own fun and not published or on the Intranet for the company I worked for.
I can describe them though -
My first webpage was done in Notepad in my lunch hour - it was pink and had a photo of a Land Rover in the middle and "Hello World" at the top. Woo original eh?
Next efforts were my departments page on the company Intranet. It was all table based nastiness (so actually I'd moved down in skillset!) using Net Objects Fusion. I remember being really impressed with the nasty templates that came with it!
I went away and had children then in about 2002 I started another page on the "real" internet which had photos of the kids etc - it had frames AND tables - niiiice! I've checked wayback machine but as the site still exists (updated since!) and as it's got a password on it, it won't take a screenshot.
The earliest example of my work still available for laughing at - sorry I mean looking at is here:
http://home.freeuk.net/mwgaviation/index.htm
It's from early 2003.
It was originally done in Netscape Composer (yuck!) for a Web Design course I was doing at the time - and although it did validate at the time (had to for the course - which I passed) it doesn't any more (sniff).
It appears that someone else has taken it on as it now has Generator="FrontPage" whatever in the header.
I must be mental posting it as it's got my email on it openly... and apparently I didn't understand copyrights then (don't worry, I bought the stock images at the time!)
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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 13:43:55
Whoever can find my first website, will earn $200, or best offer (proof required before the money is paid!).
It has a maroon background image that repeated as tile. Homer Simpson on the left frame (bobbing up and down), as well as the main navigation below that. The right frame is where all the horrible content was.
It was hosted for free at geocities around 7 years ago when they had the areas and numbers as part of the URL.
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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 15:01:57
Hmmmm. Some interesting ones there. 
I particularly liked the music and the nice puppy paws on Mango's! 
Well fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, my very earliest efforts haven't survived the passage of time, and even the Wayback Machine can't help as I've no idea what the URLs were - they were on my ISP's free space, using the web builder thingy they provided, complete with frames - yum! They would have been around 1996/7 I guess. One was for a local health support group and had the obligatory hit counter on it. It had a purple background and pink boxes in the middle for the text to site on so it was at least legible. The web builder thing was very restrictive in the themes you could choose and it was almost impossible to pick a colour scheme that didn't look completely naff - that's my excuse anyway! I vividly recall when we made it into three figures on the hit counter - a very exciting day indeed! The second was one I did for the local Gingerbread group, which had very much the same sort of luck, and I think was very possibly one of the reasons for the group folding. There were later versions of both which were done in Word saved as HTML - they unfortunately lacked the hit counters though. 
After that I went back to university and got tied up doing other things for a while. My first FP site was started in 2004. First record of it the Wayback Machine has is in 2005, though nothing much changed in that time apart from I was frantically working on v2 for months on end - I think version 1 had been on the server about 3 weeks when I decided a redesign was in order. It unfortunately seems to have lost my pictures, including the odd animated one, but you get the general idea. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ddeaf.org.uk
The second version of the site that's on there is the one that's up there now, though that's coming down shortly for a redesign and rebranding.
My first CSS layout one is I think the one that's in my profile and is far from perfect. Doesn't help that various bits of it dropped off during an unplanned server move last year and either got lost in the move or I never found time to put them back on. That's in the middle of a redesign at the moment between working on other stuff. At the current rate of progress v2 should be ready sometime around 2010.
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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 15:26:44
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I particularly liked the music and the nice puppy paws on Mango's! :)
Dear womble
the paws were big then! And who could forget the text spiral chasing the pointer?
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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 16:21:18
Well most of mine, and I had a few, were all Geocities ones with ridiculously long URL's with numbers and category names that meant little, and right now I can't seem to remember the right combination of names and numbers. I'll keep thinking, but I do remember my first ever was a site for the Squash Club I played for circa 1998 that had, for no reason at all, a fluttering Australian flag.
The only easy domain name I've owned and can obviously remember is my web design site which should show what can be achieved in 2 - 3 years. I started out with very basic images and text, frames of course too!
http://web.archive.org/web/20041022025626/http://www.nixdesign.com.au/
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RE: Your first web site - 3/10/2007 16:34:22
I take your dare JB.
This is my first.
http://www.garywcooper.com/
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RE: Your first web site - 3/11/2007 18:23:45
Aw Golfer! Where you been hiding?! (Being out playing golf is not a good enough excuse...you should be HERE!)
Ah yes, that classic thread....snow blindness? Warm colours? Hmmmmm....I think the highlight of the thread was very probably you getting a tad tetchy with Mr Fonty himself, and I think that's a damned good site!
Not being good at code and stuff isn't a problem, cos I know there are other things he's very good at. 
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All beginners posting on OF will have my support even if they feel they are asking a stupid question. They can openly say that they are a member of Golfer's group. So don't be anxious as the knowledgeable members here already have to put up with me.
And we love you dearly, darling. 
As someone's sig says, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask (or something like that). As for not knowing stuff, it really doesn't matter. A friend of mine who I did a site for a while back always describes me as an "expert". I'm not! The main thing I've learned over the past three years or so is that there's always more to learn.
I can code a valid site, I can make it fairly accessible. I can find my way around Paint Shop Pro (but I've never touched, and have no desire to, Photoshop). I know bits of various web languages now. I can more or less get databases to behave. When the web design fairly sprinkles creative dust on my pillow, sometimes I can combine all that to come up with a fairly tasteful and technically sound site, but there's loads of stuff I don't know.
Flash - terrifies me.
Dreamweaver - it's not Microsoft, so it sounds okay, but I've never even tried out a trial.
Fireworks - light the fuse and stand well back.
No-one knows everything there is to know about designing websites. There's just too much to know. You're constantly learning, and you learn from your mistakes.
As the tagline of this site says, we're a "learning community". We learn from each other and help each other out. I wouldn't be where I am today web-design wise if it wasn't for all the help and encouragement I've had from members here. Around two years ago I came here looking for answers as to why when I tried to view my site on my computer, in Internet Explorer I got a warning pop-up from pages with javascript on them (a question I discovered that gets asked on a regular basis), but no-one laughed at why I didn't know the answer, and helpfully told me what I needed to know.
The natives were friendly, and I decided to stick around. After a while I found I was able to answer more questions than I was asking, and I fell in love with making websites. I've made some good friends here too.
I'm rambling - again! I'll go now.
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RE: Your first web site - 3/12/2007 11:38:06
Unfortunately, my original site is behind a corporate firewall and not visible. Plus it has been re-done multiple times over. The original original site used frames, no doctype, and a three-tiered javascript dropdown as its exclusive navigation.
And that was only a year ago, more or less! I like to think I've come a long way since then, and indeed I have, but things always change and there's always more to learn which is why this forum is so useful.
To any newbies who are intimidated by the "experts" here-- I can only say one thing and it's the same thing my mother used to always say, when trying to prod me into action, "the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step."
Of course I'd then call her a Fortune Cookie and continue my inaction, but that's just me!
Seriously, starting out is hard but the people here are always willing to help-- and unless you have the time to read 100's of technical books hoping in vain to find the information you're looking for, this is the best way to learn.
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