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womble
Posts: 5461 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline
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RE: New Technology - 3/15/2007 12:37:37
Sounds interesting, and quite useful in theory, but I can't help wondering if it isn't going to be information overload, and like you said, a page with loads of images is going to be far too damned noisy and vibrating.... /tries but fails to keep smutty images from mind This morning I was investigating various magnification software for work, and amongst them I found one magnifier/reader that had a very annoying system of musical beeps built in to let you know where the mouse was on the screen. It's makers claimed it wasn't noticeable after a while and you quickly got used to figuring out where you were, but even just the short demo of it drove me crazy - I can't remember which it was now, and FF had a bit of a hissy fit this morning and crashed on me, then wouldn't recover the session, so all the tabs I'd got open disappeared. *sigh* So, back to the vibrating images, and some rhetorical questions...it clicks and vibrates when it finds an image - does it also read the alt text? Click, vibrate, talk - all in the middle of the text the image is in the middle of....Does it also announce it's an image...but that would be redundant with the vibrating bit. Of course there's the embedded/background images thing, and then what's it going to make of the various image replacement techniques out there? Age old problem of diplay: none, and if the image is on the page will it read the alt text and the actual text which is 0.2456 miles off the edge of the screen if you're using one of those image replacement techniques. Of course there's the empty span trick one that nicely keeps both text and image on screen and only displays the text if the image doesn't load, but of course for the standards police you don't get the nice little green tick with that one.... Whole new can of worms and another sort of technology to take into account when designing....Hmmmm - it'll be interesting to see what users make of it.
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Nicole
Posts: 2800 Joined: 9/15/2004 From: Nambucca / Kempsey, Australia Status: offline
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RE: New Technology - 3/15/2007 16:13:39
I wonder also about those of us who have images amongst text with meaningful alt text that actually forms part of a the sentence for visually impaired people but sighted users don't get that alt text. Is it I wonder going to vibrate and click over an image when to a blind user they're not going to know that an image was ever there because the alt text was so well written into surrounding paragraph text? And if so, they'll be wondering where the alt text is?
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Nicole
Posts: 2800 Joined: 9/15/2004 From: Nambucca / Kempsey, Australia Status: offline
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RE: New Technology - 3/15/2007 19:07:33
Gosh . . . I'll have to try and figure out a way to start all these meaningful sentences with the word "Graphic" from now. How about "ly speaking . . . " That way it might sound like "Graphically speaking . . ." Seriously though, the next time I buy another computer, I think I'll dedicate one to JAWS. It was playing havoc with other programs when I downloaded the free version once before so I had no option but to remove it.
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mtfm
Posts: 414 Joined: 1/13/2006 From: Mesa, AZ Status: offline
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RE: New Technology - 3/19/2007 10:27:57
Wait, I'm missing something. I would assume the point of such a device would be to assist the blind or vision impaired people out there... but how would such a person see the mouse, to point it to the image to begin with? It makes no sense to me to say "your mouse is over an image" in such a case. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, and I very well may be because I know precious little about the subject.
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