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srose24

 

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Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/21/2007 8:59:03   
Hello, this is my first time posting in a forum so be gentle... I am creating a website using frontpage 2003 and am trying to figure out how I can make the header autostretch to fit the different sizes of screen res. I've been doing all kinds of searches on google as well as this forum and have come up with zero. If anyone knows if/how this is possible, it would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks for your help,
Scott
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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/21/2007 9:19:56   
Welcome to OutFront!!!

Sounds like you want to use %s for table and cell widths. This is called "liquid" design. Hard to explain so I will point you here...

http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/liquid/

Take care,

Brian

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/21/2007 10:14:21   
If your header is just one big image then you can't do it. Well, you can by assigning % width and height to the image but then it will go all fuzzy unless you have a very high quality image and hence a very large file size.

When browsers start accepting JPEG-2 format then it won't be a problem.

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 8:35:41   
Thanks for your replies, they are very helpful. I went to the Max Design link and read through that. Problem is, I'm not very good at coding yet and was wondering if there is anyway I can do this with the frontpage editor, or where I should enter the specific code?? Any help is greatly appriciated.

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 9:20:38   
You can do it with FP but you need to know what you're up to and it helps no end if you understand HTML and CSS.

Without knowing what your header is like it's difficult to advise what you need to do. Like I said if it's one big graphic then you've got problems otherwise, right click, select table properties and change the width to 100% instead of whatever it is now. You may then find you need to change the cells to %ages as well

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 9:26:47   
jaybee,

I understand and that's what I was afriad of. I don't know if this would be a good idea or not, but would it be "wise" or "helpful" if I copy the code from a blank page with just my header, background, and link bar added?? Not sure it that would help or not. If so, let me know and I'll do that. Thanks again for your help and I hope I'm not being too much trouble. If so, just say so and I'll drop the issue.

Thanks again,
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 9:51:57   
Yeah sure, I need to see something and if it's not online then code will do.

When you paste it on here, in the toolbar of the Post Reply box you'll see a button labelled <%

Click that first and it'll put [code][/code] in the posting box. Put your cursor between the ] and [ then paste the code so it ends up inside a code box and not stretching the page a mile and a half.

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:02:38   
Excellent, here is the code as mentioned:

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<title>Our Family Pics</title>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">
</head>

<body background="Images/Daily%20Rose%20Background.png" link="#000000" vlink="#000000" alink="#000000"> </body>

</html>


Thanks!!!:)
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:12:44   
Ahhhh two problems. One - no idea how big the graphic is and Two - makes no never mind anyway as you're using shared borders and as far as I know you're stuck with what you're given..

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srose24

 

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:20:27   
bummer... guess I'm stuck with what I've got then...:) guess I could probably do it without shared borders, but it makes it so much easier when adding pages... if I were to get rid of the shared borders, is it doable?? the size of the border is 800x114 per picture properies in frontpage.

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:25:08   
In theory yes but it depends what that image you are using as a background is. Play and see.

There are tutorials here. What you need to do is get rid of the shared borders and use includes instead. Similar thing but much more controllable and not reliant on having FrontPage, they work whatever editor you use.

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:30:34   
Great! I will take a look at the tutorial and give it a try. Thanks again for your help and a big "thumbs up" goes to this forum and all the help I've received!!!

Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:47:27   
Post the code, I am sure we can help.

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:55:05   
What code would you like?? Something different than what I posted earlier??

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 10:58:46   
Don't worry, just ignore him. It's early in the morning where he is. :)

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 14:24:21   
Speed posting? Skimming? Just plain missed the post?

Take your pick :).

Some days I should just stay in bed.

Take care,

Brian

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/22/2007 21:43:12   
Hey, I just had a thought... Is what I'm trying to do capable of working with expressions? I actually have expressions, I just haven't used it much yet. I didn't know if my situation would work out any better with that instead of frontpage...:)

Sorry to keep bugging on this issue, just want to hit all the bases on it. I haven't looked at the tutorial you linked earlier. Was planning on making some time tomorrow to view it. Let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/23/2007 5:57:43   
Includes will work perfectly with Expressions.

Stay away from the FP specials like shared borders, themes, forms and you'll be able to work to your heart's delight in EW.

In fact, if you have the time, why not start from scratch in EW and learn it properly.

There are some tutorials here

and if you need more help understanding CSS and HTML then www.w3schools.com is a resource I use all the time.

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/23/2007 7:40:29   
Coooooolllll.....:)

I think I will do that. Wouldn't hurt to give the ole brain some learning exercise anyway. You've been a great help.

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Please help make header "autostretch" - 3/23/2007 8:31:36   
You're welcome. :)

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