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critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 9:51:38   
Please have a look at http://www.historicmansionincobourg.com

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Also I am having trouble getting the div with the navigation to line up properly, so if anyone wants to critique the css that would be greatly appreciated as well.

Thanks!
Jennifer in Canada
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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 9:59:11   
I think your problem is in the frame set and not in CSS.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 10:05:59   
Can you please make reference to the code that would affect the frameset. I have not set the site up in frames, nor have I set up columns or row properties other than in divs.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 10:10:55   
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
   "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>

<head>
  <title>www.historicmansionincobourg.com </title>
  
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
  <frame src="http://www.canadianbridalguide.com/mansion" frameborder="0" />
  <frame frameborder="0" noresize />
</frameset>

<!-- pageok -->
<!-- 07 -->
<!-- 7.0-->
</html>


Are you forwarding the domain to the page? If so, the url is usually masked by putting the whole thing in frames.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 10:14:10   
Footer right needs a text align right as it's over the picture in Firefox.

I think, can't see the css because of the frames.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 10:35:56   
.hnav {
	width: 750px;
	height: 15px;
}


Delete the height in your .hnav and let the div expand with whatever you put in there. That should fix your top navigation.


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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 11:06:04   
I am having a blonde day - he he he

Yes, it is forwarded to: http://www.canadianbridalguide.com/mansion

So that may help. Sorry guys.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/5/2007 14:38:50   
You didn't remove your "height" in .hnav yet....... :)

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/11/2007 22:55:46   
K, sorry I got distracted. silly facebook. um j/k

Thank you all so much for the tips so far.

Anyway, I removed the heiht in the .hnav and the top nav is fine. as for the text being over the picture on the bottom nav, I was hoping that someone could point out the error, perhaps I haven't cleared something, that would move the entire nav bar below the pictures.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/11/2007 23:07:54   
The way you have it set up with your CSS the images div to the left is floating. The means the content div needs to be longer as the float itself. You should set up a two-column div to avoid that.

BTW: looks like we are in the same business.... :)

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/12/2007 2:59:44   
Remove the height for the .leftpic and .leftpic2 and the footer will clear the photos.

It's a very nice looking site you've got there Jennifer.

Couple of things that could do with changing.

Firstly - ensure that you're using actual Heading tags for your headings. Don't do this:
<p><b>Heading</b></p>


It's not "semantic", search engines won't pay it much attention (and they LOVE heading tags) and people using screenreaders can sometimes use heading tags to navigate a page. Plus it makes it much easier to style the headings in the stylesheet.

Secondly, you've got loads of non-breaking spaces in there to provide padding on the page (for the brochures for instance). It's considered better to use padding or margins within the stylesheet to do this.

Thirdly, I'd always warn people if you're going to open a new window (brochures and the link). I think that 95% of the time it's not necessary to open a new window - but if you're going to, warn 'em!

Fourthly, you need more "stuff" in your document head - you haven't got any meta tags to speak of. I'd say at least you'd want something like this:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<meta name="Description" content="How wonderful your site is" />
<meta name="Keywords" content="useful key phrases" />


(UTF-8 is generally recommended these days but you could also use charset=ISO-8859-1

Fifthly (ok I know that's not a word) I'd add in a "focus" and an "active" rule for all your links including your nav links. Focus provides the same effect as hover for people using keyboards not mice and active does the same thing for people using IE as IE is incompetent! I usually just copy the rule for hover so it'd be like this:

a:focus, a:hover, a:active {Whatever}


(the order is important here!).

One other thing I notice for future reference is that you've got way more divs than you need cluttering up the code and making it harder for you to sort out issues like the one above.

What I'd generally do is to put the absolute bare minimum of divs in.

Start off with just the semantic tags necessary (paragraphs, headings, lists etc etc) to differentiate your content. Then add in divs for the "big" areas (such as containers, headers, footers, sidebars) to give the overall layout.

Then you can usually just refer to the "big" div and the item within it (example - #main p {whatever}) rather than having to add loads more divs or classes. When you can't refer to something or when you need to differentiate something then you can add extra classes or if necessary even extra divs.

Overall it's a very nice job Jennifer and I'm just being picky because it is so nice. I find myself being more critical of the better sites on here than the ones that could be described as "beginner" sites.


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RE: critique & mac error - 4/12/2007 3:35:33   
(Methinks she woke up early. Nobody is that focussed so flaming early in the morning. Snorzzzzzzzzzz)

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/12/2007 3:44:14   
I'm a morning person. Can't think straight after about 8pm, usually in bed by 10pm (if not I have to go home).

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/12/2007 7:00:47   
In the spirit of being picky (for exactly the same reasons that were given by Tailslide :) ) you need to add the alt text for your images.
Good job.

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RE: critique & mac error - 4/12/2007 7:01:44   
I do my best work around 10pm. We'd make a good team, you cover the morning shift. :)

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