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Frontpage freezes - 6/21/2001 20:47:00   
Hi, everytime I start FrontPage 2000, it freezes at the splash screen where it says who the product is registered to, etc. I have tried reinstalling 4 times now, and it always does the same thing. Does anyone have a clue as to what might possibly be happening that causes it to do this? Thank you!
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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/21/2001 16:07:00   
That sounds nasty. Have you tried a very large hammer yet?

When you do the reinstall are you going to Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel and uninstalling it first?

Have you checked your harddrive for errors? This sounds more like a system problem than a FP problem to me.


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/21/2001 17:32:00   
do a complete uninstall by complete uninstall I mean from the cdrom NOT the contol panel - then when reinstalling select custom and manually select the components you want - select that you want to "run from my computer"

all of this assumes you have the hardware to support it -

Another possiblility is a corrupt registry key, or a key not being removed.

If what i've suggested doesn't work pop a posting here and i'll try to to walk you through it.


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[This message has been edited by gorilla (edited 06-21-2001).]


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/21/2001 17:54:00   
Puiwaihin: About the hammer- Nope, haven't tried that yet, but if all else fails that'll probably be my only choice When I un/reinstall, yes Ido it from the disk and not Add/Remove programs in the control panel. Considering I really don't know much about computers or how to check for hard drive erors, nope, haven't done that yet.

To Gorilla: Did the reinstall from the disk with custom components, no luck I have no clue whatsoever how to check if it's a problem with a registry key, but that is what I would assume becuse one time when I restarted my computer, I got a few error messages saying something about FrontPage and something wrong with the registry. Thanks for all the help everyone!


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/21/2001 19:17:00   
Hi yah I thought that was the problem. it's not that bad but it can get a little intricate.

but first off go here:

http://www.jv16.org/ download the registry cleaner.

i'll post a fairly lenghty reply tomorrow - sorry but it's late and the last thing i want to do is make a slip with registry. it's actually quite easy as long as you follow the steps.

Try to jot exactly what the error message is and an idea of how much ram you have disk size which version of windows etc would be *very* helpful

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/21/2001 19:38:00   
As far as the error message goes, it was a one-time thing, wierd that it hasn't happened again. I have Windows 98, 128 ram (I think) 40GB hard drive, if there is any more info you need about my computer, I'd be happy to give it to you. Thak you so much for all this help, I'm off to download the registry cleaner now.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/22/2001 20:43:00   
hi again,

more (lots more) to follow on this but try to reinstall one last time making sure *absolutely sure* that nothing else is running. The installer needs complete control of the computer things so things like Norton can badly mess that up.

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Gorilla
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http://www.computerdriving.com

Email Address: marksaunders@techie.com

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/22/2001 20:17:00   
Hey, I tried reinstalling with no programs running, no luck. But I did get an error message that I've never gotten before with Frontpage, I copied it down and here's what it said:
Frontpg


FRONTPG caused a general protection fault in module USER.EXE at 0006:00004e9d

Maybe that'll help. After I clicked close on the error message, the normal thing happened with FrontPage. Once again,thanks for all the help!


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/22/2001 15:46:00   
As far as checking for disk errors, I was simply referring to running ScanDisk. It is a really simple thing to do, but sometimes that corrects problems. There are other utilities out there that can do better jobs, and a registry editor may be what you're needing. Let Gorilla walk you through it.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/22/2001 16:17:00   
This is long - sorry - suggest you copy it onto the clipboard pop it into word or something similar and print it out.

mps.

Hi again and whoooo boy. I did a bit of searching both through my records and a few other places just to make sure that the situation hadn’t changed and I’ve rarely read such venomous posts from people who were big time pis**d off.

Sorry about the delay a meeting with business partner took hours longer than Ithought it would.

Are you sitting comfortably? - then we’ll begin

YAY! a gpf - that's good it means that frontpage and something else are "fighting" and that operating system has just decided to give up. Excellent that's useful to know it suggests to me that there could be a profile problem or a corrupt dll or a bad regstry entry.

We’ll try for a minimum fix first.

/Begin minimal fix/
Stage 1

Ensure that you close programs like norton crashguard, .norton safe delete etc systray.exe is fine and obviously explorer itself. Nothing else should be running.
Step 1. Using explorer clear out your temporary directory. Usually this will be usually in C:\windows\temp
Step 2. Try to start frontpage.
Step 3. If it doesn’t work
Step 4. Try to run detect and repair from the cd
Step 5. If that didn’t work go to stage 2

Stage 2

As you’re a Windows 98 user you have a very good Free registry optimizing tool from microsoft. It’s called SCANREG.EXE. there are a few things you need to know about it:
1. Scanreg only works in DOS Mode.
2. It will Backup/Restore and Fix the registry.
Here’s how to use it:
Step 1. Open a dos window ensure that you are in the windows directory and type the following command exactly as shown below:

Scanreg /fix.

Step 2. Exit the dos window restart your computer and try to run frontpage.
NOTE: Scanreg also works in Windows 95. and has a windows counterpart Scanregw.exe. I have found Scanregw to be essentially useless and on two occasions it actually caused more harm I don’t use scanregw.exe - ever!.. If you’ve some odd configuration you may need to use explorer to find scanreg. If explorer can’t find it Download from here. http://allf18.virtualave.net/scanreg.zip and stick the unzipped files in your windows directory.
Step 3. If that didn’t work go to stage 3.


Stage 3.
Step 1. Using explorer locate the following file - it should be on the same disk as frontpage

cmdui.pref

Step 2. Take a careful note of where it was located copy it to diskette (just in case)
Step 3. Delete it.
Step 4. Try FrontPage again.

If that didn’t work uninstall it again (sorry) and we’ll get a bit more drastic.

/end minimal fixes/

You now have a system minus Frontpage - however the uninstallation doesn’t always work.
Step 1. Run scanreg /fix again.
Step 2. Now start the registry cleaner that I suggested you download.
Step 3. Click the uninstall tab.
Step 4. Scroll through the list of Entries Looking for a reference to Microsoft Frontpage 2000 Sr1-1 or SR-2
Step 5. There shouldn’t be an an entry for Microsoft FrontPage 2000 SR-1 or SR2 but if there is click the checkbox and click on uninstall.
Step 6. Wait till the program has finished.
Step 7. Next click on the tools menu
Step 8. Select registry cleanup.
Step 9. Select “do them all.”
Step 10. Restart the computer when everything is finished.

You should by now have have a totally clear system and are ready to re-install Frontpage again (once more with feeling! )

Guidance for install:
Pre-installation Ensure that nothing other than explorer and systray are running.- run scandisk and defrag. If you haven’t run defrafg before it can take a long time - it’s worth it.

Step 1. Once again make sure that nothing is running - no utilities nothing except explorer, systray and the installation program.
Step 2. Do a custom install manually selecting everything you want to run from “My computer.”
Step 3. Follow the registration wizard - don’t cancel the registration fill it out in full and let it do its thing online.

One or other of the above should work based on my what you’ve described and my experience of the problem. If you don’t have a working copy by then I can suggest a few other things but they’ll involve afair bit of hacking manually - again not difficult but a bit fiddley. - let me know how you get on. i'll check back here tomorrow.


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Hope this helps :-)
Gorilla
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http://www.computerdriving.com

Email Address: marksaunders@techie.com

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[This message has been edited by gorilla (edited 06-22-2001).]


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/24/2001 14:51:00   
Well, I guess you could say that things didn't go so good. None of the solutions workd excep a few different things happened. After the 1st stage, I tried FrontPage and the WYSIWYG editor did come up. The problem was that I tried pressing one of the alignment buttons, and it froze like normal. The rest of the stages returned the same results. This is really starting to bum me out If you've got any more ideas, I'm all ears.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/25/2001 17:51:00   
Doing some more checking

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/25/2001 18:09:00   
I think we should have asked for more info a long time ago. are you running win98? win2000? on what machine.. pentium? hardrive? ram?

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/25/2001 23:54:00   
HP8700 Pavillian, 128 mb ram, 40GB hard drive, Win98, Pentium 3, 866 mhz. The hard drive has 30 GB left, if that is of any importance. My whole computer is starting to act crazy, so I'm thinking of reformatting it.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/26/2001 23:03:00   
If you've got an unstable system now, reformatting the thing may be the best solution, I'm afraid. (That sounds like Microsoft technical support.)

Good luck.


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/28/2001 13:23:00   
Hi guys, just wanted to let you all know how things turned out. After reformatting it, FrontPage did work again, and thank you all very much for all the help.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/28/2001 13:38:00   
I just wanted to see the discussion folder burst into flames by being the 16th post !!!

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/28/2001 15:52:00   
Glad it's working. Sometimes starting from scratch is the only way to go. But too often that's the first thing out the mouth of tech support. You did right trying a few things first before nuking the whole thing. That way you learned a thing or two.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/29/2001 20:36:00   
Phew! - It took a while for someone to get back to me - hence delay. Thrilled you got it working even if yuo did have to get really drastic.

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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/29/2001 20:08:00   
TotalNewbie,

I'm not a moderator, but do follow the postings at the board closely to learn. Just want to say how nice and considerate it was of you to post back as to how your problem was resolved. We all want to know how the story ends!


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RE: Frontpage freezes - 6/30/2001 15:55:00   
Oh, that's not a problem, just the courteous thing to do, I guess. I am just glad I got so much support for my problem here. Once again, thank you all for all the help.

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