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NikTuz

 

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  		Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 16:37:11   
Hello,

Could you possibly help me. This is how my website looks now:

http://www.stat.purdue.edu/~ntuzov/

I used a template theme and structure to create it.

It's been fine for over a year but now all the tabs that should be in the home page
and link it to the others have disappeared for some reason.

I still have all the files but now they are disintegrated because of that.

Can I fix it quickly or I will have to recreate it?

Thanks,
Nik
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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 16:39:18   
Looks like it's been created from Word - that's a really really bad idea. Word is completely unable to produce even decent HTML.

Sorry that's not much help it's just difficult to tell what's going on as the code doesn't really resemble HTML too much.

You need to be careful about all your hidden keywords - Google is reputed to react badly to this sort of spamming and may ban your site.

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 17:17:46   

As for spam, the site has been around for over a year so it's ok.

I never used Word to edit the home page or other major pages before it broke down.

I did use Word to post that " under reconstruction" message, but it was already after the failure.

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 17:19:07   
quote:

It's been fine for over a year but now all the tabs that should be in the home page
and link it to the others have disappeared for some reason.
Have you just upgraded your browser? IE7 just doesn't accept badly coded pages and that includes pages developed using old versions of Office. Most of the other browsers won't display them either.

You need to re-do the whole thing using a proper web development package, not MS Office.

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jaybee

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 17:23:47   
quote:

I never used Word


Sorry babes but the entire thing is screaming MS Office. Here's the code... 

<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882"
xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">

<head>
<meta name="Microsoft Theme 2.00" content="my-theme1 1011 011">
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12">
<meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 12">
<link rel=File-List href="index_files/filelist.xml">
<link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="index_files/editdata.mso">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]-->
<title>Nik Tuzov's CV & Portfolio</title>


Please note particularly

<meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12">
<meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 12">

That by the way is only a tiny part of miles and miles of invalid code that current compliant browsers will not touch with a barge pole.

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Larry M.

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 17:36:44   
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I used a template theme and structure to create it


Why not use a FrontPage Theme? You'll have to reconstruct/re-publish the site, BUT after all, you've got your career riding on it :)

Many good choices available at: >>Format >>Theme. (scroll down).

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 17:57:42   
I have used MS FrontPage 2003 to begin with.

The Word code that you saw, as I said above, appeared after the problem
because I needed to post that "under construction" message.

Currently in my working FrontPage directory I have an older version that has
no Word code but it is displayed exactly the same way - without tabs.

It used to work fine for IE6 and 7, but then a friend pointed out that the tabs
disappeared. I opened it in FrontPage and for some reason it didn't even find the
website project as it used to do all the time - I was forced to locate it manually.


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jaybee

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 18:11:53   
Well can you upload the original page so we can see that code. The Word stuff that's there now is about as useful as a chocolate tea pot.

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 18:26:38   

Ok, it's done. Check it out again:

http://www.stat.purdue.edu/~ntuzov/

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jaybee

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 18:42:30   
OK, your nav is using a FrontPage web bot that needs the Front Page Server Extensions in order to work. Looks like they're not there or not working. Check that your host hasn't removed them. If they haven't, ask them to reinstall them or switch them on for your web space.

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Now where did I put that Doctype?

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 18:52:00   
Thank you, I'll try it on Monday.

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jaybee

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/8/2007 19:01:06   
No problem. If they can't or won't reinstall them, if it's a Unix host they may well have dropped them, then you'll need to have a complete rethink as none of the bots you have used will work any more.

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/10/2007 10:37:27   
That's what I got from our web administrator:

----------------

We have never used the FrontPage Server Extensions. Our Web server is running on a Linux machine running Apache. It's not possible to run Microsoft proprietary software on it. So the forum help you received is not correct in that we have not removed the Server Extensions, nor can we install them even if we wanted to.

It looks to me like you simply have some sort of error on your page. I don't know what you've changed to break things. It may be possible to manually edit the HTML to get it to work, but it would be cleaner to fix this in FrontPage directly. It looks like there's very little in this page.
Perhaps the quickest solution is to start over and create a new version from scratch.

-------------------------

Apparently, my site have never used Extensions becaue they were never installed.
I could do it all over, but I have to be sure it won't happen again.

Any tips on that? I designed it via build-in themes/templates so I can't think of
making it any simpler than it was.


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Larry M.

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/10/2007 10:46:15   
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Perhaps the quickest solution is to start over and create a new version from scratch


While it may defy logic, all of us involved in site development having faced this same dilemma at one time or the other will agree with this comment :)

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jaybee

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/10/2007 17:16:45   
They've never had FPSE, OK, fine we have to believe them.

But.......

You can't run them on a Unix server using Apache.... really! Tell that to all the people on here hosted on Unix servers running FPSE. I host on a Unix server, running Apache, and guess what, if I go to my control panel I can turn on FPSE. I don't want to as I never use them but the option is there if I want it.

OK, that doesn't solve your problem. Seems very odd though that it was all working and suddenly stopped. Had you done any changes to it or uploaded anything new?

The only thing I can think of right now is recalculate your hyperlinks in FP, then upload the entire site, making sure you upload any hidden folders. See if that helps.

If it doesn't then it's a case of re-do it I'm afraid.

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Now where did I put that Doctype?

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/10/2007 17:38:27   
How do I recalculate the links?

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Larry M.

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/10/2007 18:53:33   
quote:

How do I recalculate the links?


>>Tools >> Recalculate Hyperlinks

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NikTuz

 

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  		RE: Links / Tabs disappeared - 12/11/2007 13:14:15   
It didn't work, so I'll have to redo it all.

Thanks for your help.

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