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GetCalhoun -> FP won't publish (12/14/2007 16:03:15)

Hi guys,
I have run into a real stem winder and maybe someone out there has seen it before...but I doubt it. Two websites back, FP quit publishing. It just won't connect and gives the usual gibberish about extensions, etc.
Now, here's the kickers... All my old sites publish fine. And...my workaround is to publish from my backup computer on my network. Works just fine, so I know it's not a hosting problem.
However, my main computer here refuses to publish my last two new websites. The problem seems to be between this computer and my host. And to top it all off, I was able to publish a test site to Tripod using Frontpage extensions! So...any ideas? I'd sure appreciate it.
Norm



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 16:25:26)

What errors do you get?

Is this a different host to the ones that work?



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 17:16:35)

Hello Jaybee,
I see you around a good bit. Thanks.
Welp, the error begins with "Unable to publish..." and lists the 4 possible causes everybody reports.
Last time around, me and the host went round and round. The only way I could be sure that it wasn't a one time confurbation was to publish the next new website...which I just did...and it won't go either. Sharepoint comes up. I tell it to use the Frontpage extensions...add the url and poof! I get the error message.
What is so strange is that all of my old sites continue to work perfectly. And, my workaround is to port my files to my backup pooter and it publishes just fine! Whatever happened, happened two sites ago. FP just quit doing new sites. I upgraded from 2002 to 2003... Nothing. Same ol same ol. I have tried every fix I can find in hours of searching.
As near as I can tell no settings have changed...and in any event, all the old sites publish just fine. It's these two latest editions that just won't go. Won't even begin to go. I hit the ol publish button and there comes the dreaded Unable to Publish error message. The host is as baffled as me...maybe more so. He's pretty sure he's dealing with an idiot. There, I said it. So, my only hope is to run across someone who had this problem and licked it. Why won't new sites publish??!



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 17:30:51)

BTW Jaybee, after I finished the last message I successfully hooked up with Tripod (just like the last website)...and it would have published. Recall, I did that for a test. See what I mean? Why will it go to tripod but not a real host? And why will it work on my other machine but not on this one? It's hair raising!
Norm



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 18:31:58)

Mmmmmmm need to have a think about this one. Let me sleep on it and if some bright spark figures it out before me then hopefully they'll post it here. The only thing I can come up with off the top of my head is security settings/software that were installed/changed before you developed those two sites and have somehow affected them..



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 18:42:31)

When you take the sites to the computer where they work......

try deleting them from the non-working machine then copy them over from the working machine.

or, if that doesn't work,

delete them from the non-working machine and publish them back down from the host, assuming you can connect to do that.



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 18:42:36)

Hey, it's a booger. Talked to Eric in Support on the phone. You know it's serious if I go voice. He's a smart kid but this one is unique. Dead end. The latest experiments was to flush IE completely of everything...cookies...the works. Disable el Norton...done that one long ago....and finally to log on as GUEST on the pooter which creates all new everything....and the blasted thing still wouldn't go. But it would import....which I did and turned right around and tried to upload....Uh uh! It's going to be something dirt simple...but mebbe it won't be found in this lifetime. But if someone does figger it out, I will see to personally that they get a gold plated attaboy or attagirl! (I actually went insane the last time this happened. Now I am impervious. Been fooling with it all day. So much for my vacation time!)
Norm



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 18:51:27)

Try downloading a trial of Expression Web, open the site in that and see if it'll go. Take a copy of it just in case.



treetopsranch -> RE: FP won't publish (12/14/2007 22:03:52)

I had that problem once and found the host had changed my password without telling me. Seems they had a hacker that had hacked passwords and they took the liberty of changing all FrontPage publish passwords.

But you say it works on some computers? Thats odd.



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 6:40:32)

It has to be something that's different on that machine. I don't know enough about the details of FP publish as I never used it but it sounds like some setting gets saved with the site so the old ones still work OK but any new stuff is using the setting and won't publish.

You could try FTP and see if it will let you connect with that, then it's a case of uploading all changed files plus the hidden folders _borders _private etc.

Other option, try turning off your firewall before you publish and see if that helps, don't forget to turn it back on.



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 6:49:02)

I assume you've worked your way through this

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324843

especially the part about error logs?



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 11:37:23)

Hello Jaybee,
You are a peach. No, this page was new to me. I just removed and reinstalled office and FP, btw. Knew that would be useless. But...back to the page you sent. It suggested looking in the error logs. I ran across this yesterday....

12/15/2007 10:27:14
The server couldn't log you on, because you are connecting through a proxy server, but the server's authentication scheme(s), do not work across a proxy. Try adding the server to the Exceptions box in the Proxy Settings dialog, or request the server administrator to enable another authentication scheme.

Now, that's pretty plain. Only I'm not using a proxy server, whatever that is. I tried enabling that feature yesterday so's to add the exception...but it didn't lead anywhere except a really non working pooter. So I ditched that. But... might this strange error mean something to you? My thanks for your puzzlement of this goofy issue!
Norm



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 12:02:45)

Hey Don,
Haw! That would be just too simple. You know, I've faced and butt whipped every challenge FP has thrown at me since 1998, but this one may be my undoing.
About Expressions. I upgraded from FP 2002 to 2003 to start. And I just poofed and reinstalled the whole thing awhile ago. I'm in sincere doubts I'd do any better with Expressions for this issue as I expect it would just pick up the faulty code...if there is any, from 2003. I may do this as a last resort, but I think it would be hopeless. I'm really beginning to wonder if it's on the other end.... The problem is that this crazy thing can't be duplicated. My data works just fine from all other pooters it's tried on. It's some kinda snafu between only THIS pooter and THEIRS.
To tell you the truth, I love a good mystery, as long as it's happening to somebody else. I hate when I read these threads and it stops with no explanation....



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 12:19:20)

OK, take a look here and see if this helps:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905233



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 17:22:18)

Boy, I ain't believing you. Yep...done been there awhile ago... The program they quote ain't there. Folder empty. Got it up again now.
And I'm not believing OutFront. Our discussion is already indexed in ol Goog! Wow!
Also just tried to publish a working site from my backup pooter via my piddly little lan to my url. No go. It's something with Sharepoint alright. The url, btw is www.electgenerobinson.com. Thank goodness I can publish from my backup pooter...but it's a little embarrassing, not to mention double work for backups and stuff. I use VNC to access the pooter down at the house to publish, you see.
Well, on to more experiments.. Don't fret this one. I think it's computer hijinks gone bananas.



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 17:36:03)

OK, so narrowed down to Sharepoint. I'll let you search for topics on that one [:D]

Suggest you switch to FTP for those sites.



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 18:20:49)

Hey, well, I have too many FP doodads on there to use FTP. I do have the "workaround." So, I'll stay pat until a miracle happens, I guess... But if I don't get an answer, Mr. Brunt just may have a new client come the next website time. If my new sites will publish on Tripod, surely it will publish on his place. I hope!!!
Hey, I just found another string of talk on here...and you were in the thick of it... Front Page 2003 Publishing Problems - 7/8/2006 ... sdcowgirl, or some such. I just sent her a note to see if she ever figgered it out. Hey, I really appreciate you taking some time with this thing!!! Go thou and do Christmas. As my moniker says, "Even the Last to Know, Shall Know at Last!"
Sincerely,
Norm



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 18:29:51)

Ahhh yes well that's me; all over the place. One of these days I'll stop interfering. [:D]

Christmas, due to the wonders of the Internet, is done. Yee Hah! And another one where I don't have to set foot anywhere near the chaos that is "xmas stores".

Have a good one and if anything ever occurs on this subject, post back so we know.



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 18:57:17)

In my book, Mr. Jaybee, you ARE the man! And good ol OutFront is the place. I don't understand half of what is posted, but I just love to read it anyway....jes in case! Thanks again, and if I get it figgered, I will surely write the ending to the The Strange Case Of NoProxy!
Norm



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/15/2007 19:01:46)

quote:

In my book, Mr. Jaybee, you ARE the man!
Errrrrr yes well I seem to suffer a lot from this gender confusion. [:D] I've said it before and I'll say it again..... I'm a girlie!



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (12/16/2007 16:01:50)

You know, I knew the moment that I gave you that glowing compliment, you would turn out to be a girl. It NEVER fails. Look, if it makes up any at all, I have this naturally high pitched voice and a lot of people think I'm a girl on the phone. That's why I prefer to use the internet and.... Well, I was telling the troof about the voice thing...but I really don't care about the rest. When I'm accused of being a girl, I just run my voice up two or three more octaves and give em a real show. Actually, I chew tobacco and climb pine trees for sport. Very manly!
Anyway, the flummoxed support crew are suggesting that it may be time to try Basic Authentification. I have read up on it and I'm still not sure what it means....except it's not the first preference.
And, I got a very nice note from the cowgirl person I mentioned earlier and she said she never did get her problem (which was kinda like mine) fixed. She opted for FTP.
Well, like I said, You ARE the WOMAN! For anyone who cares, I'll still set down the end of this tale when it happens. Thanks again! Don't let people who call you a guy get you down! They are idiots and not worth one thread off the hem of your skirt!
Norm or is it Norma?



jaybee -> RE: FP won't publish (12/16/2007 16:27:01)

quote:

Look, if it makes up any at all, I have this naturally high pitched voice and
ROFLMAO!!!!

Confucius he say.....

When you reach bottom of hole, stop digging. [sm=rofl6.gif]

Don't sweat it, I'm used to it. You're not the first and you sure as heck won't be the last.



pcicerchi -> RE: FP won't publish (1/24/2008 19:01:08)

I'm having this same problem with Expression Web. Has anyone found a solution? My next step is to go to microsoft and start a support ticket.



GetCalhoun -> RE: FP won't publish (1/25/2008 15:53:12)

Welp, the workaround in my case was not perfect. If you don't solve the problem, ask your host about the advisability of using basic authentication. I'm just not server guru enough to understand the ramifications of going this route, but it may work for you, if you're comfy with it. The problem, I think is the NTLM Authentication...whatever in the heck that is. It's screwed up, either on our machines, or at the server...but prolly a combo of both. BTW, could you tell me who hosts your site? Wouldn't it be a hoot if we both are at the same place? You can send me a private message, if you like about that.
IF you DO solve the problem, for crying out loud please let me know what you did!!!!
Thanks!
Norm



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