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Smitty

 

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I was hacked. Now what? - 12/6/2001 23:34:55   
It would appear that on or about 11/25 my site was infected with W32.nimba virus. While I am still working on getting things back in order, I came across some files.

The question is:

1. Now What?
2. Someone put some "Friends" eposodes on my computer. They are gone now.
3. What is a good way to prevent this or minimize this from happening again.
4. There was a Tagged and logged File folder, does that mean others know the way into my system?

Any help or suggestions while I rebuild would be a big help. Windows 2000 advanced server. dsl router doing port translation, 2000 SQL server.

Thanks



John A. Smith
Cheif cook and Bottle Washer: sorryiforgot.com hairschool.org
If you have to ask "Who's the man?" Your probaly not him.
Rian

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/7/2001 0:45:42   
Yikes!

From CERT

"The only safe way to recover from the system compromise is to format the system drive(s) and reinstall the system software from trusted media (such as vendor-supplied CD-ROM). Additionally, after the software is reinstalled, all vendor-supplied security patches must be applied. The recommended time to do this is while the system is not connected to any network. However, if sufficient care is taken to disable all server network services, then the patches can be downloaded from the Internet."

http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-26.html

And here...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/topics/Nimda.asp

You should find all the information you need in these links...

Good luck!

Rian

"Designing The Future"
SR Web Creators
www.srwebcreators.com

"What boots up must come down..."

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caywind

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/7/2001 3:06:51   
Where's the rollback? backup? redundant servers! remember, in networks almost everything comes in twos. That means backups and planning for every contingency. The network must be up. Not trying to sound all mighty here, I learned this one the hard way too.

hey, need a break? http://webpages.charter.net/cwind/SSGallery/indexFP.htm

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caywind

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/7/2001 3:12:25   
Didn't nimda create it's own mail server and propogate that way? If you're connected to the network you should take precautions. I think it was nimda that also spread via unprotected shared network folders.

hey, need a break? http://webpages.charter.net/cwind/SSGallery/indexFP.htm

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Smitty

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/7/2001 16:26:43   
I have 3 computers on my network. I am using Port translation on my DSL Router, The only port open is Port 80 for the web server.

What software aside from the patches can I use to monitor for attacks intrusion.

I'm not sure how they got past the port translation to place files onto the computer in the first place.

I feel pretty open, when I read this was a good firewall method. Yes, i know nothing is perfect, but what else should I do?

Thanks for the help. This weekend is the re-format and reinstall.



John A. Smith
Cheif cook and Bottle Washer: sorryiforgot.com hairschool.org
If you have to ask "Who's the man?" Your probaly not him.

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PBailey

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/7/2001 17:12:53   
Smitty,
The dsl router will give you protection but it won't protect against virus that comes in through e-mail. You need to keep your virus protection current and run full scans on a regular basis besides loading the patches.

You also might wnat to run one or two of the free open port checks available on the web and see if 80 is really the only port open. (After you get it cleaned up).

Definitly read the links Rian sent and Norton has good information at:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.nimda.a@mm.html

Paula

 

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Rian

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/7/2001 23:02:06   
Hi John,

Here are 3 tools you should have for your server:
1)URLScan Security Tool
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/tools/URLscan.asp

2)IIS Lockdown Tool
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/tools/locktool.asp

3)HFNetChk
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/tools/locktool.asp

Your DSL router doing NAT (Network Address Translation) will do nothing to stop NIMDA! It infects your server through port 80 that you opened to the Internet. Your server was missing a critical patch and virtually no firewall would have prevented your server from getting infected.

Last I checked, an unpatched IIS server lasted on average about 90 seconds exposed to the internet before another infected server scanned and infected it.

MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS STAY CURRENT ON ALL PATCHES!!!And get them before you take your server online!!

NAT on DSL is NOT a firewall. NAT is just one part of what makes up a secure firewall.
Read this for the limitations of NAT.
Does NAT keep out the bad guys?
http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,s%253D1032%2526a%253D12470,00.asp

Hope this helps!

Rian

"Designing The Future"
SR Web Creators
www.srwebcreators.com

"What boots up must come down..."

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Smitty

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/8/2001 0:46:58   
Thanks for all the help.

Just when I thought I had a handle on getting my web site up and functioning. Well the learning curve will be a circle when I get done.

John A. Smith
Cheif cook and Bottle Washer: sorryiforgot.com hairschool.org
If you have to ask "Who's the man?" Your probaly not him.

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Smitty

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/8/2001 10:07:44   
All,

I have purchased Nortona and McAfee anti vitus latest and greatest versions. One problem they don't work on 2000 Servers. I am looking for Network Antivirus software any ideas. I found something from Panda, they have a free trial so I got it.

What would you recommend?

All of the Network Software not only is over $300.00, but the sales people, don't appear interested in such a small sale. Trying to get a call back or e-mail response is a joke, one week.

Thanks

John A. Smith
Cheif cook and Bottle Washer: sorryiforgot.com hairschool.org
If you have to ask "Who's the man?" Your probaly not him.

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sarge

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/8/2001 22:09:07   
ooooohh!
All of this just gives me a great big headache. I wouldn't know if I've been hit by a virus, or if it's just one of those inexplicable 'things' that cause inexplicable delays etc. I can't believe that I'm just the lucky one that has escaped all this virus stuff. I'm probably suffering now from downgraded performance or whathaveyou, but I wouldn't know the difference.
I just wish that there was a beautifully engineered piece of software that I could point at my machine and say "Go boy... KILL".
..And as for the 'authors' of those viruses? Well, I think that they have all the charisma of a cowpat. Their efforts can be equated with the anonymous authors that leave their anonymous drivel on lavatory walls. They are not clever. They are sad little people who revel in vandalism. Do they really think that this leaves their mark upon history.. or what?
Can these despicable little insects not be traced?
Can the ISP's not get together to form some sort of alliance to stamp on them?
Can there be a UN agreement on the death penalty for them?
Oh well - it's 3 am in the UK, and I've downed two bottles of beaujolais..
g'nite
Sarge


 

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Rian

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/9/2001 3:14:47   
quote:

Can these despicable little insects not be traced?



Here you go sarge!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40427,00.html

JERUSALEM — Four Israeli teens confessed Saturday to writing and spreading the "Goner" computer worm that attacked computers worldwide this month, according to police.

The teens, ages 15 and 16, are high school students in the northern city of Nahariya, said Meir Zohar, head of the police computer crime squad.

One of the teens confessed to writing the worm and the other youths confessed to spreading it, Zohar said. All four are in custody and could face between three and five years in jail if convicted.


Rian

"Designing The Future"
SR Web Creators
www.srwebcreators.com

"What boots up must come down..."

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Smitty

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/9/2001 22:27:37   
Sweet, I am ever amazed at the length of time people will spend to do something, truly stupid and unproductive.

If they where so good, they should be thinking that it's harder to build than to destroy..

What kind of network anti-virus would work best. I've spent hours reading and still don;t have a good solution that doesn't kill my bank account, from what I've been reading it could run into the thousands.

Thanks

John A. Smith<BR>Cheif cook and Bottle Washer: sorryiforgot.com hairschool.org<BR>If you have to ask "Who's the man?" Your probaly not him.

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Rian

 

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RE: I was hacked. Now what? - 12/10/2001 12:21:05   
Here is a $199.38 solution...

Symantec Norton AntiVirus Corporate Edition V7.6 5-pack
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=332741

Keep in mind that once you bring "servers" into the picture things can get expensive quickly!

Rian :)

"Designing The Future"
SR Web Creators
www.srwebcreators.com

"What boots up must come down..."

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