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E4444
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Image upload help please?! - 3/24/2008 15:42:39
Hi everyone
I am constantly uploading images to my website. I save the images in my web folder. I use Frontpage and view in 'normal' and click insert, then locate the pictures using the browse facility. But then when I look at the html, for some reason they are always inserted from a temporary location and the route reads something like this: Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20File/Content...
It also puts [1] after the file name.
The image cannot be seen on the website until I delete these and re input the correct filepath for every image I add, which is really time consuming.
Does anyone know why this is happening please? No-one I've asked understands why.
It has been suggested that I insert all images using the html, but as they are all different sizes this would be just as time consuming, and more complicated.
If anyone can help with this, I'd be so so grateful as it has been driving me to distraction!
Thank you so much.
Elle
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Larry M.
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RE: Image upload help please?! - 3/24/2008 17:00:07
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I am constantly uploading images to my website. I save the images in my web folder. I use Frontpage and view in 'normal' and click insert, then locate the pictures using the browse facility
This sounds backwards - Your terms "Uploading", "Web Folder" and "Normal" are improper and may not mean what you think they mean.
The correct procedure (in FrontPage Navigation View) is: >Insert >Picture from File (Browse to Image) >Save (preferably to Images folder), then >File >Publish Site.
If you continue to have problems, post your URL so we can look at your code.
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RE: Image upload help please?! - 3/24/2008 17:40:56
Hi, sorry, is this not a page for novices? Sorry, I am new to web design, but think I am doing quite well considering.
My URL is http://www.eastfortyseventh.co.uk
Thanks so much for your advice.
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E4444
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RE: Image upload help please?! - 3/24/2008 18:00:26
Hi, I am at risk of sounding extremely dim now; but I am not using 'publish'; I just drag the page out of the 'internet folder' (wrong term I think), onto the desktop, change whatever I want changed and then drag it back in. This appears to make the information 'load' onto the webpage without me having to publish it. I could well be doing something drastically wrong, but I will definitely look through my FP settings to see if I can see anything obvious. Thanks very much.
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Larry M.
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RE: Image upload help please?! - 3/24/2008 20:26:18
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I just drag the page out of the 'internet folder' (wrong term I think), onto the desktop, change whatever I want changed and then drag it back in
Entirely the wrong procedure and the cause of your path statement problems - all design changes must be made in FrontPage. See my previous remarks.
As to the term "Publish", this refers to the process of transmitting local site changes to the host server. FTP is an option unless you are using FrontPage Components - see >Insert >Web Components.
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RE: Image upload help please?! - 4/1/2008 15:15:58
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ORIGINAL: E4444
Hi everyone
I am constantly uploading images to my website. I save the images in my web folder. I use Frontpage and view in 'normal' and click insert, then locate the pictures using the browse facility. But then when I look at the html, for some reason they are always inserted from a temporary location and the route reads something like this: Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20File/Content...
It also puts [1] after the file name.
The image cannot be seen on the website until I delete these and re input the correct file path for every image I add, which is really time consuming.
Does anyone know why this is happening please? No-one I've asked understands why.
It has been suggested that I insert all images using the html, but as they are all different sizes this would be just as time consuming, and more complicated.
If anyone can help with this, I'd be so so grateful as it has been driving me to distraction!
Thank you so much.
Elle
Hi E4444,
I am new to this Forum, just a few minutes ago in fact. My first post as I was just looking around and stumbled on to your post. I am a total newbie in regards to much of the stuff that goes into web development, but I have used FrontPage since the late 90s, so I have some experience. Here is my take on it.
Warning: I do not understand how any of this works in the background, e.g., what is taking place in the program or on the computer behind the scenes, but I do know fixes and workarounds, if we want to call them that.
1. When you get a [1], TMP, Local, or TEMP in front of the file name and also on the page title when in FrontPage, my understanding that means you are NOT logged online to your website and you are working with your pages locally on the computer.
What I mean: as I understand things there are two ways to work in FrontPage.
One is where FrontPage is "connected" to your server and website [web hosting service]. When in this mode you can make changes to the web page on your computer, click the "SAVE" icon on the FrontPage toolbar, and this will cause FrontPage to automatically UPLOAD the changed page to the server.
It's a cool and convenient feature since you can press the FP "SAVE" icon as often as you like and the changed pages are instantly updated on your website [via FP's FTP feature.]
To get into this mode you have to go into FrontPage and set up the program to publish [FTP] the files automatically. How do you do that?
This simply requires you to tell FrontPage your website's login name and password. Once doing this, when you are on the Net you can press the "File" icon on your Internet Explorer toolbar [see pic below of menu item.]
One menu item choice will be "Edit With Microsoft FrontPage." When you click that, FrontPage will open, ask you for your hosting [FTP] user name and password and FrontPage will log you online and you will be working with FrontPage "live," so to speak.
2. When working live or online with FrontPage [as described above], when you use FrontPage's "add image" icon, a dialog box will open up and ask you for the location on your computer of where the image is, that is, the one you want to insert on your page.
Once the image is inserted, more FrontPage convenience takes place when you tell FP to save the changes or additions.
That is, when you press "save" on the FP Toolbar, FrontPage will open a dialog box asking if you want to UPLOAD to your server any images that you placed on the page [that is, the images inserted while working on your PC.] When you click "Yes" FrontPage automatically UPLOADS the images to your website on the server and also adds the proper URL to the image strings, that is, telling the server where to go for the images. If this was done correctly, when you go to the website online you will NOT see an erroneous "properties" string such as "file....%picname" etc.
3. WARNING: When doing 1 & 2 above, the pages and images, etc. are NOT saved to your computer. To save the pages you need to manually FTP the files to a folder on your PC or you can use FrontPage to manually save the pages and images. Manually you would press "save as" in FrontPage and simply tell FP to save the HTML pages. You can then manually transfer the images to wherever convenient, for example, to a subfolder located under "My Webs."
4. Now as you your [1] error [not really an error.] When that happens you are NOT connected online and FrontPage is NOT working remotely or "live." You are working on your PC. FrontPage is NOT connected to your online website.
An example on how it occurs is as follows [at least how I have seen it happen]: When I try to use the "Edit With MS FrontPage" described in #1 above, I will get that error. FrontPage will open, but I am NOT connected to the Net. FP simply opens a "TMP" set of files and images are typically indicated by a red X.
I have discovered that why this happens is that I have other web pages open at the same time from the same website. When more than one page is open in Internet Explorer, for reasons unknown to me, FrontPage will not log me online so that I can use FrontPage while connected or as I say "live."
When in "temp" or "TMP" mode, for lack of a better term, I can paste or insert images on to my web page being designed on my PC with FrontPage, BUT THE IMAGES ARE NOT UPLOADED OR ONLINE WHEN I SAVE THE CHANGES. They are simply on my computer. That is why you can look at your page on your PC and it looks great, but when you go online you will see the bane of webmasters, the red x.
The fix: simply close all web pages EXCEPT the one you want to edit with MS FP. After everything is closed, then select "EDIT WITH MS FP" When you do that, your computer should open FP and if it is working correctly, it should ask for your user name and password for the hosting site. If it does NOT, then FP will continue to open the page but it will be as a TMP or TEMP file.
If FP does open correctly and connects you to your web hosting server, you will see in the title bar at the top of FrontPage, for example: "Microsoft Frontpage - http://www.yourdomainname.com/homeindex.htm"
If you are not connected you will see the "TMP" "[1]" or other letters in the title bar. You also may see that the page being worked on is located on one of your computer's folders: "Microsoft FrontPage - C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Webs\"
If you are not logged on to your site, simply remember that any changes or additions to your page will NOT show up online, but only on your local computer.
5. I have one website that I do NOT access through MS FrontPage "online" or "live" mode. On that page I do have to manually enter the full URL for each picture, graphic, or background that I am placing on the page. I then save the page on my hard drive.
After all that, I then connect to the domain hosting site with an FTP program. I then manually upload the html page and all graphics and images. Even though the web page was created with MS FP, I have to do the manual upload because I did NOT connect FP to my hosting site when making the additions and changes.
Had I connected to FP while making the additions and changes, FP would have automatically inserted the URL string or address for the images I placed on the page. But since I did not, when working on the page locally [on my PC] I had to tell FP the URL for each image.
Bottom line: I think your problem is that when working on the pages FP is in "local mode" and NOT connected to the Net. When in local mode you will get that "TEMP" or "TMP" in the page title bar.
Instead of opening FP on your computer, instead open Internet Explorer to the page you want to edit or work on.
Then after making sure ONLY that page is open, click <FILE> and select <Edit With Microsoft FrontPage> [See pic below]
You know it is all set up correctly if you are prompted for your hosting user name and password.
6. For help on setting up MS FP to publish, open help and search <publish> See below.
< Message edited by MichaelSF -- 4/1/2008 15:34:57 >
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