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aloisd -> anchoring autoshapes (4/23/2008 13:18:05)

hi, if i insert some text on a web page and then draw a line under it using the autoshape feature, do i have to somehow anchor the line to the text or the current position so that the line does not move to other areas of the page if someone for example is using a browser other than internet explorer or their screen is wider than normal? i notice during designing other elements of the same web page that the line shifts position some times, that's why i ask. thank you.



d a v e -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/23/2008 14:06:54)

don't use autoshapes as they are IE only.
use a horizontal rule <hr> or a graphic if you must - or place a border on the bottom of the element using css. the horizontal rule is your best option;



aloisd -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/23/2008 17:26:24)

okay, thanks. i inserted a horizontal line and that seems to work, although it is more difficult to format.

but i also have an oval emblem on the page that i made out of an autoshape. are you saying i need to convert that into a graphic? if so, is there an easy way to do that without recreating the whole thing in another program?

or can i somehow work with that autoshape? what happens to an autoshape when a front page web page is brought up in a browser other than ie?

thank you for your help.



jaybee -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/23/2008 18:36:08)

Auto shapes are created using Microsoft proprietary code, other browsers don't have a clue what to do with it so tend to just pretend it's not there. Text boxes have the same issue. You should never build web pages using either of them, they were originally meant for printed pages.

You should either create the whole thing as a proper graphic using a graphic package (if it's a logo) or create the shape as a background to a table cell then type normal text in if you're just trying to highlight some text. Option 2 is better as Google will be able to read it.

If you want to use it exactly as it is but just turn it into a graphic, Paint Shop Pro has an import screen area option, you may be able to find a screen grabber if you search the web. You then just put the page in your browser, use the grabber to select the area you want and save it as a tiff or gif file depending on what you're using.



aloisd -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/23/2008 22:09:35)

hey, thanks for your response. i do have paint shop pro. i'm not sure if you were describing how to do the import screen area option or something else. can you be a little more specific? i'd like to try that.

as for text boxes, i used them when i created a form on my web site. they do appear in other browsers, but they are moved around a little. i was wondering why that happened.

thanks again for your help. you guys are great.



aloisd -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/24/2008 1:45:56)

i have one other question if you don't mind:

does anyone know what makes the letter using a particular font appear as vertical rectangles instead of letters? does that mean the font is corrupt somehow or am i missing a setting? i am trying to reproduce the above graphic in jasc psp 8, and i need to use the latha font, and it won't work.

thank you again for your help.



jaybee -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/24/2008 9:00:35)

Text Input boxes in forms are a different thing to the text boxes you add from the drawing toolbar.

PSP you use the File>Import>Screen it's slightly different in some versions so take a look in your Help for how to use it. It allows you to grab an entire screen or just a bit of a screen.

Letters appearing odd can be down to a number of things and it depends on where you're seeing it. It could be that you have the wrong encoding specified so the font won't render properly.

Or, if it's only happening on the web, use a standard font. Browsers will only display fonts that are present on the user's machine.



aloisd -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/25/2008 11:23:31)

thank you for your help. as you suggest, i used a table. inserted the text, then used the ellipse graphic i created in paint shop pro as the background picture. is that the best way to do it, and will it show up in other browsers done that way?

i think you're right, the encoding is probably the problem with the font. but i never at least knowingly specified it. how would i correct that? i know this is not a paint shop pro forum, but maybe that is just a generic option that is used similarly in different programs?

finally, regarding positioning of pictures, if a use right wrap to get a picture in the right margin, i notice you can then move it around by changing the horizontal and vertical spacing. does this mean, though, that if someone has a much wider screen, the picture will then be positioned way right, and according to where their right margin is? because all my tables and cells are going to stay where they are, and i would like the picture to stay in the same positioning in relation to THEM, not the right margin.

also, regarding positioning, how do i insert a picture in the middle of a page, if it is big enough to cross about ten lines and those ten lines all have existing different cells positioned on them, on the lefthand side of the page? if i split one of those cells, for example, and insert the picture there, the picture then pushes everything else down 10 lines. i just want to be able to insert the picture and leave everything else alone.

thank you for all your help so far. i appreciate it very much.



jaybee -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/25/2008 11:41:24)

We really need to be able to see the page. Can you post a URL to it?



aloisd -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/25/2008 12:04:34)

i don't have it uploaded yet and prefer not to until i get it finalized. would it be possible for you to try to help without it online for now? if i can't work these things out, then i will finish the rest of the site, upload it, and then come back to you with my questions. sorry, but it is a business related site so i can't just put it up until it's done! i basically just don't understand positioning of pictures. i wish it were as easy as cut and paste!



d a v e -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/25/2008 14:07:49)

simply upload it as test.html or in a test directory



aloisd -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/25/2008 19:27:30)

sorry, i don't know how to do that. can you elaborate please?



d a v e -> RE: anchoring autoshapes (4/26/2008 1:39:54)

save the page you're working on as test.html and then publish it (or FTP it if your are ftp-ing)



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