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Scotty -> � (4/25/2008 20:46:25)

We recently loaded our site using a css layout instead of a traditional table based layout (I have no idea if this pertains to the problem, however I figure I'd better layout all variables that have changed).
Now, I'm noticing the ubiquitous � showing up on various pages (http://www.loghomestore.com/fasteners.shtml),...and I've begun to notice this on other peoples sites.
I use Kompozer most of the time.
Anybody have an idea on this?
Regards, Scotty



treetopsranch -> RE: � (4/25/2008 22:52:54)

It seems to be in your code. For example I found this: OlyLog� Screws hdw0010

Not sure how it got there but maybe the program you are using to write your code thinks that word is misspelled.

Try to do a find and replace on that page to see if it removes it. You have to do that in code view.



Tailslide -> RE: � (4/26/2008 2:40:52)

Could you point to an example of it happening on the site - couldn't find it from a quick scan. It's unlikely to be a problem strictly related to using CSS for layouts.

Usually the appearance of strange characters in the text is due to an encoding mismatch so you'll get special characters such as & or @ or even apostrophe's appearing incorrectly. This is fairly easy to fix as long as we know exactly what's happening where.

Also - you've got a ton of coding errors in there such as a repeat of the DOCTYPE, head and opening body tags halfway down the page. Is Kompozer a WYSIWYG editor?



treetopsranch -> RE: � (4/26/2008 11:59:32)

Tailslide it's here: http://www.loghomestore.com/fasteners.shtml



Tailslide -> RE: � (4/26/2008 12:12:42)

Ah I see it. My guess is that it's meant to be a copyright sign.

What were you using for the copyright site? I generally use " & c o p y ; " (Without the spaces) - you could see if that helps.



jaybee -> RE: � (4/26/2008 17:42:56)

I suspect it's supposed to say OlyLog® and the ® is being converted to a ?

You need to change all those ? to the relevant html code for the symbol. FP regularly does this "correction" for you as well.

the Code you need to type into CODE view, not design view is ®




Scotty -> RE: � (4/27/2008 0:01:55)

I'm guessing I have a two fold problem...
First the programmer that did the css layout, and transferred some of the page data, possibly input the copyright symbol incorrectly, and 2nd, I've been opening the pages in WYSIWYG view instead of souce...thus adding some extra tags each time I do.
If I find a page with several of the? symbols (on mine on other sites), I'll post again here.
What fun...
Scotty



jaybee -> RE: � (4/27/2008 6:40:57)

WYSIWYG will be the problem. It happens in FP as well.

On here, if I put the code for the R symbol to appear correctly in my post it's fine, until I open it up again to edit it then it gets corrupted. It's because you use the code to create the symbol which it does but then it doesn't uncreate the symbol and convert it back to the code when you go to edit. If that makes any sense.



Scotty -> RE: � (4/27/2008 11:30:44)

Jaybee; So why do folks bother with the R symbol? In our case the suppliers could give a whit whether we show it, as long as we're selling their product (versus using their registered names in our keywords to sell competing products)...and if I do use the R symbol, does that mean I alway have to use notepad to open and edit, rather than a program such as Kompozer (I was trying it over FP2000 to get away from problems such as this...I thought).
Regards, Scotty



treetopsranch -> RE: � (4/27/2008 13:15:58)

Scotty, FP (at least 2002 and 2003 versions) have a handy find and replace feature. You can change that symbol in all pages or one page at a time, you chose. But, like I said before do it in code view.



jaybee -> RE: � (4/27/2008 13:30:05)

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So why do folks bother with the R symbol?
Beats me. I use it on my sites with a trademark but I don't normally expect other people to. Then again mine's not a product. By putting the R people can tell it's the real deal I suppose.



Donkey -> RE: � (4/27/2008 18:38:02)

The 'R' symbol is only for Registered trademarks and shouldn't be used for unregistered marks. Registering a trade mark doesn't in itself make the mark any more valid (just slightly easier to protect in law) and long term usage of an unregistered mark gives you the right to use that mark. If you are using someone else's trade mark on a web site, or in your sales literature then you should use the 'R' symbol, or the 'TM' symbol if it is unregistered, and you should have a footnote on the page saying something like "Albatross (TM) is a trade mark of the south pacific sea bird consortium". That is not a legal requirement but it protects you from a claim by the south pacific seabird consortium that you are passing off their mark "Albatross" as your own.



mtfm -> RE: � (4/28/2008 11:58:58)


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ORIGINAL: treetopsranch

Scotty, FP (at least 2002 and 2003 versions) have a handy find and replace feature. You can change that symbol in all pages or one page at a time, you chose. But, like I said before do it in code view.



There's also a line item you need to check "find in source code"



Scotty -> RE: � (4/28/2008 12:59:23)

So 'find and replace), while in source code, will correct the problem...until I accidentally open using a WSIWG such as Kompzer? ...then I'll probably get a new batch to deal with, plus it will dump more unneeded code that I'll have to cleanup.
So how do you use the WSIWG?...look but don't save?
Scotty



d a v e -> RE: � (4/28/2008 13:15:12)

i had the same problem with Kompozer using a unicode encoded email address that it insisted on converting no matter what i set it to do :(

still i use dreamweaver anyway so i'm not that bothered :)

not sure what to advise ...



Scotty -> RE: � (4/28/2008 15:03:46)

So if i switch to Dreamweaver I won't have the problem?...even using WSIWG?
Regards, Scotty



d a v e -> RE: � (4/28/2008 15:09:43)

i haven't had any problems with it.

insert > html > special characters

of course you can hand code it as Tailslide says but does it change it to something else when you use " & c o p y ; " (Without the spaces) ?



Scotty -> RE: � (4/28/2008 20:02:25)

Actually, it's also doing it on apostrophes e.g. it's, they're.
Scotty



d a v e -> RE: � (4/29/2008 2:25:57)

is that when you type it in or paste it in? and if you paste are you pasting via notepad?



Scotty -> RE: � (4/29/2008 13:49:26)

As far as I can remember, it didn't show up when we first posted the pages...what I'm not sure of is whether I have since opened those pages in WSIWG and made some changes, thus inadvertently corrupting the code.
I'll take a look at the dates each remaining page shows and compare that to when originally loaded.
Regards, Scotty



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