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vickgould Posts: 18 Joined: 4/25/2008 Status: offline	Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 10:06:39 How can I position my pages to not have all this dead space on the right? I used layers to creat my boxes. www.victoriasgould.com Thanks!!


jaybee Posts: 13787 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 10:31:22 Select the bit you want to center on the page and use Format to center it, or select it and right click, takes you to the same place. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to vickgould)


vickgould Posts: 18 Joined: 4/25/2008 Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 11:14:05 I tried this, but my right click didn't have a "Format" and when I used the Format drop down box from the top, I didn't see a Center. If I use the paragraph centering, then only the words move. Am I missing something? (in reply to jaybee)


Larry M. Posts: 2478 Joined: 2/20/2003 From: Greenville, South Carolina, USA Status: online	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 12:30:17 Jaybee, The code on this site is a collection of gibberish - it doesn't look like she's using tables, for instance, but "forcing" graphics with dozens of spaces. Plus I see a <div style="position: absolute... statement. Thought I could help but I'm lost to venture any advice in this particular situation. Would be interested in your interpretation _____________________________ Larry M. The parts of the computer system you hit with a hammer are called �hardware�; program instructions you curse at are called �software�. (in reply to vickgould)


jurgen Posts: 381 Joined: 1/9/2007 From: Castle Rock, Colorado Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 12:36:04 All your divs are positioned "absolute" they will not move with the center tag. You need to change your styles. And as Larry mentioned yuo are using a lot of "none braking spaces" position stuff even more. _____________________________ Wedding Dresses Colorado (in reply to Larry M.)


vickgould Posts: 18 Joined: 4/25/2008 Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 13:30:47 Ok, so what everyone's saying is that using the FP "Layer" option is not good? Yes, I spaced the 1st picture, but the set of 4 pictures is in a layer box. So I created the page with a table inside a table. Hopefully that makes it better, but I still don't see the Format option. Sorry if I'm sounding dense. www.victoriasgould.com/index2.html (in reply to jurgen)


jurgen Posts: 381 Joined: 1/9/2007 From: Castle Rock, Colorado Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 14:07:12 Your index2 page is not available. Regarding using layers, sure you can use layers, but it is always a hassle if you do position "absolute". _____________________________ Wedding Dresses Colorado (in reply to vickgould)


jaybee Posts: 13787 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 16:09:41 When you use right click you won't see Format. You should get the option to modify the properties of the selected items. I've never used FP layers though so not sure if it applies in the same way but yes, you have the layers set up as Absolute which means they will stay where they are no matter what. S So you need to edit the properties of the layers to center them on the page and get rid of the absolute positioning. I have no idea how you got them like that in the first place but you should definitely be able to change them. Layers ARE good especially if you learn how to use them correctly. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to jurgen)


jaybee Posts: 13787 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 16:18:27 Layers Tutorials OK, looks like FP gets its knickers in a twist with layers that are not absolutely positioned. You can turn absolute off though and in this tutorial on the positioning screen shot you'd click None but it might go a bit weird. It's basically because FP layers are actually Divs but FP doesn't handle them right. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to jaybee)


jaybee Posts: 13787 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 16:21:48 quote: ORIGINAL: Larry M. Jaybee, The code on this site is a collection of gibberish - it doesn't look like she's using tables, for instance, but "forcing" graphics with dozens of spaces. Plus I see a <div style="position: absolute... statement. Thought I could help but I'm lost to venture any advice in this particular situation. Would be interested in your interpretation The gibberish is layers code but yes, you're right, some of the positioning is being forced by hitting the space bar to move things around. Vick - Space positioning is a very bad move. It causes no end pf problems when you try to make changes to the page. Unless you go into the code, you can't see the spaces and they'' make your positioning a nightmare to keep track of. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Larry M.)


vickgould Posts: 18 Joined: 4/25/2008 Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/28/2008 21:05:45 Oh -- sorry. I swear I hit the button to publish the site. It's there now. www.victoriasgould.com/index2.html So now I have it in tables. Still, it's over to the side. And I don't see this Format thing. Do I select the whole table? In regards to a comment about Divs..... I don't even know what that is. But I will make sure that I don't position with spaces anymore. (in reply to jurgen)


jaybee Posts: 13787 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/29/2008 5:48:13 Yes and no. If you select the whole table, or a cell, right click and the pop-up menu should have something along the lines of Table properties as one of the options. Long time since I used FP so it's a bit fuzzy but I'm pretty sure there were cell and table properties in there. Once you get the table properties box up you should be able to specify all sorts of things to do with the layout and positioning. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to vickgould)


Larry M. Posts: 2478 Joined: 2/20/2003 From: Greenville, South Carolina, USA Status: online	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/29/2008 6:38:39 quote: right click and the pop-up menu should have something along the lines of Table properties as one of the options ... then >>Alignment then select Center from the drop down box. Also, experiment by unchecking the Specify Width box to see how it renders in your browser. _____________________________ Larry M. The parts of the computer system you hit with a hammer are called �hardware�; program instructions you curse at are called �software�. (in reply to jaybee)


vickgould Posts: 18 Joined: 4/25/2008 Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/29/2008 8:23:03 By George, I think I've got it! Thanks a lot! I just joined this forum and everyone is so great and helpful. I changed my layer to a table instead on the first two pages. I like how the layer has an option to have it "inset" and it looks pretty, but I can live with the table. I did the centering for everything. So now to update the rest of the pages. Thanks again! (in reply to jaybee)


jaybee Posts: 13787 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Need to kill the dead space to the right - 4/29/2008 10:49:20 quote: everyone is so great and helpful It's this week's special offer. Next week we all go back to being grumpy and obstructive again. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to vickgould)