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rdouglass

 

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Site Redesign - 8/30/2008 16:21:38   
I'm re-doing a site and would appreciate any and all comments:

http://www.atrainerontheroad.com/test.htm

That's the test page and pretty much any of the links on that page will take you to the old version so please ignore those unless you want to compare to the old (crappy) version.

Thanks much.

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/30/2008 16:27:01   
Looks pretty good. Getting 5 inches of horizontal scrolling on my 800 res monitor.

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/30/2008 16:40:00   
Roger,

Re-do sets-up well; information develops and displays very effectively left to right (instead of vertical) formatting, plenty of white space and judicious use of graphics. Loads fast. White space at the bottom below text should be elimated.

Like Don, I'm getting left to right scrolling but we've discussed this before. At 1024x768 it's barely noticeable because of padding.

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/30/2008 16:40:16   
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Getting 5 inches of horizontal scrolling on my 800 res monitor.


Thanks for that input. I checked it resizing the browser but could you do me a favor and confirm this for me?

You should be able to see all of the first 2 columns and all of the menu without horiz scrolling; can you?

Thanks.

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/30/2008 16:44:21   
Larry, thanks for that valued input. I hardly noticed the whitespace but if you did, others will also. :)

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 5:36:54   
I like love it! There's a lot of information on there, but it doesn't feel cluttered at all. It's got a very modern feel (it kind of reminds me of the BBC site in some ways), and looks very professional.

The first thing I did notice though was a big Windows warning popup that said "Opera not supported" (I'm using Opera for browsing at the moment, as Firefox is very unstable on my new system) which is kinda a bit off-putting! :)

I'm not getting any scrolling at 1146 x 786px (I've taken to keeping the Windows sidebar on display), but what I am getting is down near the bottom right, a white area where the background image cuts off abruptly (just above the Comodo triangle in the corner) (screenshot attatched), which is happening in both Opera and Firefox (Opera 9.52 and FF2.0.0.16).

<edit>Also happening in IE7 as well</edit>


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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 8:57:44   
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You should be able to see all of the first 2 columns and all of the menu without horiz scrolling; can you?


Yes

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rdouglass

 

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 13:41:52   
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Yes


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rdouglass

 

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 13:49:50   
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what I am getting is down near the bottom right, a white area where the background image cuts off abruptly


Yes, I noticed that recently as well.. Seemed to be a stylesheet issue and once I fixed that, the content now centers on a resized screen. I had my 'wrapper' div set to a fixed width. :) (You won't see it on that page I posted tho.)

Now that I've put a nice gradient for the top background (also not in the example page I posted), it's shaping up rather well and I am pleased witht the results.

Now the whole Opera thing, I am not familiar with at all. :):) Any suggestions? I wouldn't know where to begin.... :-/

Thanks for those kind comments.

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 14:03:20   
This is probably a daft question but, on the efficiency front, why do all the list items have a class set? Wouldn't it be less work and less code just to refer to them from the id or class of the UL (if you see what I mean) and/or if there's an exception class in there somewhere, add it in via an if/else rule with PHP or whatever.

Edit:
The opera problem is caused by helpme2.js

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rdouglass

 

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 14:09:07   
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Wouldn't it be less work and less code just to refer to them from the id or class


Yup, you're right. Most of the other stuff already is. This was an afterthought that I wanted to change the list-style on those items. I just haven't gotten around to moving it yet but is planned. I totally believe that's what the 'cascading' means in CSS and that's generally the way I do it.

Now if I could only figure a way to get 30 hours into each day....hmmmm. :)

EDIT: Oh, now I see the ones you're talking about. Yes, those shouldn't be there as they do nothing on the live pages. Its some troubleshooting stuff I use.

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RE: Site Redesign - 8/31/2008 22:21:56   
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Edit: The opera problem is caused by helpme2.js


Hmmm...that's the AJAX JS i use for live help - it checks for live operators. You wouldn't happen to have a specific error message handy would you?

I guess I ought to install Opera and check it but it seems to be less than 2% of users are using it. Would most of that 2% be developers checking their code for compatability? :)

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RE: Site Redesign - 9/1/2008 2:53:44   
Opera rarely chucks up problems but it's innovative and I would definitely download it.

This is the line in the script that's physically causing the alert:

function GetXmlHttpObject(handler)
{
    var objXmlHttp=null
 
    if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Opera")>=0)
    {
        alert("Opera not supported...")
        return;
    }


Apparently older versions of Opera didn't support the XMLHttpRequest Object (which is why they've added this bit of the script) BUT since 7.6 - it does!

So, pretty simple solution - just remove the "IF" bit which chucks up that Opera alert - Opera users tend to update their browsers regularly.


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