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Moesy

 

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HELP - 8/30/2008 23:03:28   
I changed the name of my first page called Index to read Cloud 9 Horse Care and Equine Massage. I did this in the html window through Frontpage. If you click on my website
Cloud 9 Horse Care and Equine Massage you will see how it comes up on the Internet. Not good. How can I change this? I did a "save as" and changed the name back to Index but didn't work.
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RE: HELP - 8/31/2008 7:47:47   
That's because your home page has to be index.html (or index.htm, index.php etc. if you're using PHP scripting for example). You can give your page a title of whatever you want actually on the page in your <h1> tag, but your homepage filename has to be index.html (unless your host has told you otherwise (some hosting uses home.html) or you've got some fancy re-write rule in your .htaccess).

That list of contents and dictories is showing because there isn't an index.html in there - normally you only ever see that list of a directory's contents if the directory (in this case the root directory) doesn't contain an index page. If you look at that list of files, you'll see index.html isn't listed amongst them, and that's further confirmed if you enter the URL http://www.cloud9horsecare.com/index.html - you get a 404 page.

The index.html has to be in the root directory of your domain (usually if you're viewing it through an ftp client it's called 'public_html' or 'www' - 'www' is usually a shortcut to 'public_html'). If you're having problems figuring out where to put it, contact your hosting company for guidance. The other thing to be careful of is capitalisation - if your hosting's on a *nix server capitalisation matters, and Index.html isn't the same as index.html - filenames should always be all in lowercase to avoid any problems if you ever move your site between servers.

Once it's in the right place, you may have to clear your browser's cache or refresh to see the changes, but once it's in the right place with the right name all should be well.

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RE: HELP - 8/31/2008 11:06:45   
All of what womble stated... it looks like you have an Index.html file. Change your Index.html to index.html and it should work. I'm thinking you're hosted on a linux box and it doesn't like the capital "I" in your Index.html file.

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Moesy

 

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RE: HELP - 8/31/2008 14:59:09   
Hi everyone ~ Fixed the problem according your all of your instructions. It worked and I'm up and running once again. You guys are great, thanks so much. This is one problem I couldn't understand as I have no formal training doing a website. Does anyone know where I could get formal training ON-LINE?

I will be returning.

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RE: HELP - 8/31/2008 15:41:03   
There's various places online you can learn HTML, but there's little formal training available for web design per se, even offline. Often web design comes as a bolt-on to other subjects (I recently took part in some research by a UK university about whether they should make web design a separate degree programme), taking elements from IT courses and design courses and applying bits to the web, and though there's various places that claim to teach web design, there's really not a single qualification you can get that'll formally qualify you in web design. Most of us around here are self-taught in one form or another, and you pick stuff up as you go along, getting tips from others further along the learning curve than you are, and looking at other people's sites for inspiration and checking out their construction.

The closest I've seen to an all-in-one qualification is a web development certificate I did with the Open University, and completed last summer (and then like a mad fool, despite the fact I've already got a degree in a completely unrelated subject, three days later registered myself to do a computing and design degree :)). It took me 18 months to complete it, and it covers everything from basic design principles, HTML, a little CSS, VBScript/ASP, database design and Coldfusion, open source and PHP, and server management. It's certainly not for the faint-hearted - many people who registered and started doing the various modules the same time I did dropped out at various stages through the course of the qualification, and those of us who made it through to the bitter end I'm sure fried a few million brain cells along the way and came out with only remnants of our sanity remaining. I found it very worthwhile though, and I learnt a hell of a lot. It's all done via distance learning, and much of it's web based (required course texts get mailed to you at the beginning of each course), and you stay in touch with your tutor largely by email, and via the course's online course forums, and if you're not in the UK, the OU covers many countries around the world too. If you're interested in finding out more (despite me making it sound like torture :)), there's details of it here: http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/bin/p12.dll?Q01C39

If you're just wanting to learn some basic HTML and CSS (though they do loads of different scripting tutorials as well), check out the W3 Schools site, who do HTML and ASP certification, where you work through their online tutorials at your own pace, and then take the test online when you're ready. All the tutorials are free, and you can take tests to check your understanding of what you've learnt in the tutorials, and then just pay the exam fee to take the exam online.

There's much more to web design though than just learning HTML (that's the easy bit in many ways), and a lot of it comes from experience and practice, and hanging around places like this. When I first arrived here way back in 2005 (Eeeep! Was it really that long ago?! I only dropped in to ask a question, and I'm still here! :) :)) I'd just designed my first "serious" site (I'd been messing around doing basic things for a few years, but it was the first large-scale site I'd done), I was greeted by one of the moderators, who answered whatever silly question it was I'd come here to ask, and then I decided to post my new creation in the 'critiques' section - that was when the fun started! Everyone was very kind about the creation I'd managed to put together, but said "it's okay for a first attempt, but..." ...and I decided to start again from scratch and learn HTML and CSS, and I haven't stopped learning yet.

With web design there's always something new to learn, a new language, a new style, a new method of doing something, or a new technique, and the more you learn, the more you realise there is to learn. That's one of the things that's so great about it, and the fantastic communities you find online where seasoned pros are quite happy to give up their time when they could be working on paid client work to help out newcomers and those who've run into problems with their site. And then of course there's the joy of creating something that someone says to you, "yeah, I really like that!"

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Moesy

 

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RE: HELP - 8/31/2008 16:04:26   
Thank you Womble. I have already called up W3. Will take their tutorials. That "torture" program isn't something I need at this time I'm 64 and my brain is already fried. LOL

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RE: HELP - 8/31/2008 16:06:48   

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ORIGINAL: Moesy
That "torture" program isn't something I need at this time I'm 64 and my brain is already fried. LOL


:) Yeah, that was about the age I felt after I'd finished it!

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