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Sub web creation - 2/13/2009 4:42:13
It seems like once there were several tutorials on this site. One tutorial had to do with creating sub webs. I guess all that is gone now.
Anyway, I want part of my web site to be accessible by password only. Could someone please post a step-by-step procedure to do that?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/13/2009 5:10:29
I forgot to mention that I am using FP2003.
Also, I would like to put put a 'log-in' link on my existing home page (index.html). That link and several other links on the home page would take the user to a log-in dialog box. Once the user is logged in, he would be taken right back to index.html but all links would then take to user to the real live pages. Does that make sense?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/13/2009 6:34:07
Long, but complete, OutFront thread involving establishing a subweb with password permission Here. Note: a subweb is an entirely separate site which can look exactly like the main site or have another look altogether. All sites can be cross-hyperlinked.
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Once the user is logged in, he would be taken right back to index.html but all links would then take to user to the real live pages. Does that make sense?
No.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/13/2009 7:57:33
Larry,
Thanks for the help. The thread is long like you say, but it isn't complete because some of the links no longer work. Those links seem to be required info.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/15/2009 22:26:48
Okay Larry,
I think the subweb has been created properly. You'll find it at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/dirinfo/ .
Now for the permissions. I would like to use the same user name and password for myself as I use for the main site. That is not absolutely essential though.
For my users, I would like a new user name and password. Those would be the same for all users.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/16/2009 10:17:07
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I think the subweb has been created properly. You'll find it at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/dirinfo/
No, this is not a subweb. Subwebs (subsites) always have an index file - as I mentioned this is really a separate site altogether but published to the same server hosting your main site.
Do this: (1) create a site in FrontPage - any site, but it could be the content you want to be accessed via username/password - then, (2) >>File >>Publish Site, (3) when the Remote Web Site Properties opens, modify the Remote Web Site Location to read http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions, (4) when the Microsoft Office FrontPage Opens it will read "A Web site does not exist at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions, Would you like FrontPage to create a Web site at that location?" (5) Answer Yes then confirm the username/password is correct for your host server, then(6) click "Publish Web Site".
After publishing, the subweb (subsite) can be viewed at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions
After you do this we'll cover the permissions aspect and, yes, you can use different authority levels for this particular function.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/16/2009 20:51:34
Okay Larry.
Now on my computer. in My Web Sites, I now have, in addition to folders for my existing three web sites: a folder called '_private', a folder called 'images' and an index.htm file.
On the host's server at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions, I now a _private folder and an images folder.
The index.htm file didn't seem to publish.
Does that sound right so far?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/16/2009 21:19:20
No it doesn't. You need to follow my instructions to the letter.
I've created and published a subweb for you at: http://www.pawprintseasley.com/permissions/. Note the path statement and, although the subweb is only one picture, it is an entirely different site than the main site. This, or any other subweb (subsite) can be restricted to visitors by use of username/password.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/17/2009 14:16:02
Yes, your example is exactly as I want for my web site. I am trying to follow your previous instructions to the tee and will let you know when I think I am there.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/17/2009 18:46:14
Larry,
We have something going at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/. Not without a struggle, but I think we are ready for the next step(s)..... the password step.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/18/2009 11:18:39
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We have something going at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/
Barney,
Looks OK. No time now for the next step(s). Will post later today.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/18/2009 21:42:25
Larry,
Yes similar to that. What I want is if a user goes to http://jaxareagolfassn.com and clicks on the "Directory" tab, he would be asked for the user name and password. After correct entries, he would be taken to the new index.htm page where he will have several choices.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 9:25:32
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What I want is if a user goes to http://jaxareagolfassn.com and clicks on the "Directory" tab
When inserting the hyperlink for http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/ on the Edit Hyperlink menu experiment with Target Frame settings, i.e. Same Frame, Whole Page, New Window and Parent Frame.
Under Target Setting insert the command target="_blank" to ensure that when the visitor clicks-out of the subweb (subsite) he will be automatically returned to the parent site.
Will post the Permission steps later.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 14:18:11
In addition to the Administrator level I've established Browser level username/password permissions for:
http://www.pawprintseasley.com/permissions/
The Browser level username/password access is: Member / TeeTime. Try logging in both ways.
I'm assuming you want to be the Administrator with the same username/password for the parent site and all visitors will use the Browser level permission only.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 15:19:58
Just checking, am I still working on the host server? I have none of this on my computer. Do I need to reverse publish before proceeding to the permissions phase? Does it matter?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 15:24:23
Barney,
Stay online. I'll post the worksteps in the next few.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 15:30:57
Create Permissions in a Subweb
Step 1 -- Open Subweb/Subsite and Open the Server Administration Web
(A) In FrontPage with no site files called-up >>File >> Open >> Enter http://www.jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/ in the File Name field >>Open. If requested, enter User name and Password >> OK. At this point, you're working on the server the same way you normally work on your local computer except the Open file menu, Look in field now reads: Permissions on www.jaxareagolfassn.com.
(B) Scan through site files and double click the index.htm (html) file - site now opens on the server which can be verified by the blue address bar at top which must read: Microsoft FrontPage - http://www.jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/.
(C) >>Tools >>Server >>Permissions >>If requested, enter Username/Password. This will bring up a protected host page that uses the same server permissions you use for FrontPage access to the main site. This can be verified on the top address bar which should (must) now read: http://www.jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/.
Step 2 -- Establish One or Multi-User Level Subweb/Subsite Permissions
(A) Click "Change Permissions" >> Check “Use unique permissions for this Web site" >> Click Submit, then click the "Administration" link (top left of the page in blue bar between Home and Help).
Tip Within a Tip: Don't select "Same Permissions" or you'll end-up with your parent/main site password protected, not the permissions subweb/subsite.
(B) Click "Change Anonymous Access Settings" >> Click "Change Anonymous Access Settings" then click Off under Anonymous Access >> Click Submit. (This prevents users who have not been supplied with a userID/Password from accessing the permissions subweb/subsite.)
(C) Back on the main Administration page, click "Manage Users" >>Click "Add a user" on the Manage User page >>Enter a new Username (LarryM) and Password (FlyNavy) >> Enter the Password again (FlyNavy) to confirm it.
(D) In this example check the Administrator box which gives you the authority to View, add and change all server content, manage server settings and accounts. Go back through the Permissions steps to add Username/Password protection for other authorized viewers. For these viewers I suggest you elect "Browser" which limits access to viewing only. For the Browser Permission level Username/Password I suggest "Member"/ "TeeTime"
Good luck 
< Message edited by Larry M. -- 2/19/2009 15:38:10 >
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 15:58:26
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Stay online. I'll post the worksteps in the next few.
I'm lost. If I'm online, I have nothing to hyperlink per your above about experimenting with the Target Frame settings.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 16:04:11
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The Browser level username/password access is: Member / TeeTime. Try logging in both ways.
I was able to log-in using Member / TeeTime. No problem. What is the second way?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 16:25:30
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I have nothing to hyperlink per your above about experimenting with the Target Frame settings
That's the hyperlink from the Directory tab on your parent web site: http://jaxareagolfassn.com/ I'm referring to.
You can set-up the link locally, but don't publish until you understand how the Permission process works.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 16:27:18
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I was able to log-in using Member / TeeTime. No problem. What is the second way?
The second way is really the first way: Administrator username/password LarryM / FlyNavy
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 21:03:16
Larry,
Okay, I think the permissions are set as you suggested.
What is next?
Thanks for your help.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/19/2009 21:43:59
Ok, good work!
http://jaxareagolfassn.com/ still shows the Directory page with unrestricted access.
I thought the whole purpose of this exercise was to make the page limited to those with the proper username/password?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/20/2009 3:17:38
I have, per your instructions, limited my work to the server side.
The index.htm page on the server is very crude and needs to be redesigned. Also as the switch over is completed, I need to notify my users to give them the user name and password.
Is it time to reverse publish?
You have been a great help on this. Thank you very much. I am sorry to have been so dense.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/20/2009 16:02:01
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Is it time to reverse publish?
No, the subweb should not have been designed on the server to begin with, so:
(1) Open www.jaxareagolfassn.com in FrontPage connect to your host then delete the Permissions subweb on the host (right) side.
(2) All design work in FrontPage is done locally - create a new web site, either by selecting "One Page Web Site" in FrontPage or using any template such as the free one's found Here or Here. I believe you have most of the content at www.jaxareagolfassn.com, so copy/paste it to the new site and insert as applicable. You should rename the new site to Permissions.
(3) With the new web site "Permissions" open in FrontPage >>File >>Publish Site
(a) when the Remote Web Site Properties opens, modify the Remote Web Site Location to read http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions, then.
(b) when the Microsoft Office FrontPage Opens it will read "A Web site does not exist at http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions, Would you like FrontPage to create a Web site at that location?" Then,
(c) Answer Yes then confirm the username/password is correct for your host server, then
(d) click "Publish Web Site".
(4) Create Permissions (Username/Password) on the Permissions subweb for both Administrator and Browser levels.
(5) Notify appropriate members of the new login steps via email for the Directory link at www.jaxareagolfassn.com.
Lastly, When inserting the hyperlink for http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions/ on the the parent web www.jaxareagolfassn.com observe the Edit Hyperlink menu Target Frame settings, i.e. Same Frame, Whole Page, New Window and Parent Frame. Whole Page may be the best choice, then
Under Target Setting insert the command target="_blank" to ensure that when the visitor clicks-out of the subweb (subsite) he will be automatically returned to the parent site.
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/23/2009 20:47:49
Larry,
I am confused at step 2. Should the new "Permissions' web site be located inside the folder that contains my jaxareagolfassn.com web site? If not then how does it 'publish' right along with the main web site?
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RE: Sub web creation - 2/24/2009 10:55:00
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Should the new "Permissions' web site be located inside the folder that contains my jaxareagolfassn.com web site?
No. As I've pointed-out twice previously, Permissions is an entirely separate/different web site with, minimally, an index.htm (html) page. Think of a subweb as "piggy backing" a site on a parent site (subsite) toward the end that one hosting arrangement can be utilized for two (or more) web sites.
The fact that Permissions relates to www.jaxareagolfassn.com is practical in your situation but coincidental, nonetheless - the subweb could just as well be the Laura Linney Fan Club, or some such. When the link on www.jaxareagolfassn.com is clicked to http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions the server leaves www.jaxareagolfassn.com and connects to http://jaxareagolfassn.com/permissions.
When the Permissions web site has been created in FrontPage, follow steps 3, 3a, 3b and 3c above. After that follow steps 4 and 5 above.
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