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visitor tracking file(s) - 3/25/2009 15:35:08   
I open up my FTP program and drag-and-drop my "new" listings db (Access 2000) from my desktop to my webhost, replacing/overwriting the "old" listings db that I placed there the day before. This provides up to date search info for visitors.

I maintain a second db called login, and when visitors respond to my registration page online, I get an email from them. I use info in this email to register them into my login db. I compact and repair, and send to webhost when needed.

At this point, my website is ready for registered visitors. I need no help automating the processes above.

Below is where I need FrontPage 2000 help:

On the site (http://www.freisco.com/crhomes.htm) the visitor selects RESIDENTIAL or LAND. Based on their selection, they get directed to a login screen.

Residential Search: login is (http://www.freisco.com/login.asp?returnURL=%2Fres%2Fdefault%2Easp) which leads to a criteria page of (http://www.freisco.com/res/default.asp). I desire a tracking file that shows activity on login. A second file showing criteria page selections. These two could likely be combined to show what user specified what search criteria. I need help creating these tracking files.

After selecting criteria and hitting "search" a roster of homes appears on the next screen. The visitor then selects a property of interest and clicks on the address, and full record information shows up. Roster page is (http://www.freisco.com/res/results.asp); and individual full record page is (http://www.freisco.com/res/details01f.asp?id=13431).
At this point, I need two things. First, I need a method to limit the number of returns that populate the roster page. I need code that will create a message similar to "54 records found, displaying 20-40" where I can set the number of returns on one page, then generate total number of pages and let visitor select "next-previous, 1, 2, ...11" to look at the returns in chunks instead of one long continuous return. (similar to a catalog rather than continuous) I need code that lets me specify the number of returns to show on one page; and that generates the page breaks. The second thing I need here is another tracking file that will show me what visitor looked at what full record.

In summary, the help I seek is this:
1. tracking file(s) for login/search criteria (one file preferred - trackfile#1)
2. code to show total records that fit criteria, showing x of y pages, and code that lets me determine how many results to show on one page (not limit total returns - at least for now)
3. tracking file that shows what visitor looked at what full record. (trackfile #2)

My idea of a tracking file: Spreadsheets work well for me but since traffic is less than modest, even an email message would work well. trackfile#1 will record: Username, password, IP address, login date/time; for every attempt. Trackfile#2 will show trackfile#1 plus search criteria specified plus the "ID=#" for each full record examined.

Trackfile#1 shows me login attempts success/failures, and if I see failures, I can notify users of problems and get them corrected. This will also show me unauthorized login attempts.
Trackfile #2 shows me what the visitor is actually interested in.


In a nutshell, that's the help I need. I have no problem providing you with the html for the underlying web pages. I'd bet the solutions can be incorporated into them, and not so much the db end of things.

Any and all insights would be highly appreciated!
Sincerely,
Steve
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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/25/2009 19:05:26   
Hi Steve and welcome to Outfront.

That isn't a Nutshell, that's quite a bit of work and the people on here are volunteers.

I think you have two options:

1: get a pro developer to quote you for it or
2: Find a good ASP tutorial and have a go yourself.

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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/25/2009 19:25:19   
Dragging your db to the server without precautions will take the whole server down one day (I speak from experience on this one.) You really need to either use forms to update the data or follow this simple procedure. Let's say the name of your db is "mydb.mdb" then:
1. create your new "mydb.mdb" on your local machine and call it "mydb-new.mdb"
2. upload it to the remote server with ftp
3. login to the remote server and while viewing the two db files: rename "mydb.mdb" to "mydb-old.mdb" and rename mydb-new.mdb" to "mydb.mdb"
It's more of a pain but you won't mess up your server or your db this way.

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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/26/2009 9:20:17   
Thanks to both for your replies.
As a very infrequent user of forums and an even less frequent person requesting help; I am at a loss on how to find a decent FrontPage2000 person who can help me for a reasonable cost. I've put out a few requests for help in the past, and received responses from developers who wanted to take over completely, make my system bullet-proof, and redesign from the bottom up using their top-notch teams.

This is all well and good, but beyond the scope of my problem as described in my post, I really don't need the help. So finding a targeted solution provider for a minimal cost is a trick for me.

I had a MS Certified Solution Provider help me get my system to it's current state; but he's gone on to greener pastures and as far as I can tell, disappeared from the face of the earth. He created these files for me, and after I accessed my web and drag/dropped his files from my webhost to my machine, those files disappeared. This was expected, because the files were supposed to 1st check to see if the file existed on the webhost and if so, append to those files. If the file didn't exist (i.e. copied by me from host to my desktop) the files were supposed to self-spawn and create anew.

This worked fine for awhile, then mysteriously ceased functioning. And....now I can't find the developer to fix his errors. So, I need to find someone who can. I tried to find an Access 2000 specialist, but was told by them that I need a FrontPage 2000 person who can help.

That's where I am now. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks again for your posts.


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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/26/2009 10:05:19   
As for tracking--since you are already using querystrings to pass requests to the db and return data--don't underestimate the power of the free Google Analytics. They can give you most of your tracking data down to the granular page id (page.asp?id=1234 and so on)
Sitepoint twittered this at 11:15 last night:
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/03/26/10-web-analytics-packages-for-tracking-your-visitors/

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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/26/2009 11:32:36   
can you help me with entropysearch on my website

i am using the search engine "/cgi-sys/entropysearch.cgi"
on the website www.icin.org.uk but It seems that the code from entropysearch does not properly parse the webpage when showing the results.

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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/26/2009 12:33:52   
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entropysearch.cgi
That is a proprietary script from cPanel--you will have to talk to your hosting company about any problems. You might want to use server indexing or google instead.

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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/26/2009 13:00:07   
Thanks reply. This is an internal search engine for the website. Google is for all WWW
my hosting company states :-
Kindly note that entropysearch is a third party tool. So you will have customize it by yourself. As we don't provide code support, it will be better for you to contact an application developer to edit the codes accordingly to meet your requirements.

and i am getting no where !

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RE: visitor tracking file(s) - 3/26/2009 13:16:23   
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Google is for all WWW

Not necessarily.
Search using google for "google site search"


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