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Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only site - 5/6/2009 2:56:07   
Hi,

Hope some one can help... I've agreed to help maintain a small charity website and have adapted their existing site in HTML.

They originally used Frontpage to manage the site, yet now no one has this program (including myself).

It is a really simple static site and it would be much easier to just use simple html. Everytime I try to adapt the site it just doesn't work as I'm guessing Frontpage is directing everything.

I just want to completely remove Frontpage and strip the site down to a 10 page html based site.

Please can someone let me know how to remove all Frontpage elements to have a simple clean site.

Many, many thanks,

Dxbluey
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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 4:33:06   
It probably depends on how it was built but it shouldn't be too difficult.

You want to watch out for FP generated stuff like menus which would say something like menubot. Replace those FP widgets with the "real" html code e.g. the generated html menu and you're done. You can see what the actual html generated is by looking at the generated source code in your browser.



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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 5:03:16   
Hi - I had thought just to delete all the old html data and replace with the new.

However it just seemed to "recreate" everything... some html files were updated but some not.

I tried replacing in both the www directory and the html_public to little joy.

The top level directory structure is this:

.cpadons
.cpanel
.cpanel-datastore
.cpcpan
.fantisticodata
.htpasswds
.MirrorSearch
.rvskin
.ssh
.trash
access-logs
etc
images
mail
public ftp
public_html
testsite (i added this)
tmp
www

I tried to test getting around the frontpage by uploading my new html files to the testsite directory and then tried loading in a browser with the full correct url ending /testsite/index.html and it returns the error:

The requested URL /testsite/index.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8i DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.***mysite etc****.com Port 80

I'm at a loss, I am very much an amatuer at web, but shuold be able to set up a simple html site!

Thanks again!

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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 5:11:07   
I'm not sure I understand how it's recreating bits if you're not using FP at all and you've removed all the FP related bits... very odd!

You want your test site to be within the public_html directory though - may or may not be contributing the problem.

If you've stripped out all the FP stuff (e.g menus, slideshows etc) and replaced them with their actual html equivalent then I'm at a bit of a loss to know how the problems are arising.

Could you possibly paste into a post a complete page of the code - start to finish - from "view source" in your browser and we'll see if there's anything obvious that might be causing a problem.

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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 5:49:31   
A quick check - you mention removing all the FP - can I check what exactly I should remove....

I've found some whysiwg php files and a _vti_inf.html file and a .htaccess file in the www directory

Sorry for being clueless, but I have no experience of FP and am not clear exactly what is safe to remove.

Here is the original untouched index.html:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Feline Friends Dubai Homepage</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<link href="style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>
<body>
<div id="outer">

<div id="banner"><img src="images/topbanner.gif" width="700" height="99" alt="top banner" /></div>

<div id="navbar">
<ul>
<li><a href="index.html" title="Home">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="aboutus.html" title="About">About us</a></li>
<li><a href="adoption.html" title="Adoption">Adoption</a></li>
<li><a href="fostering.html" title="Fostering">Fostering</a></li>
<li><a href="volunteering.html" title="Volunteering">Volunteering</a></li>
<li><a href="catcare.html" title="Cat Care">Cat care</a></li>
<li><a href="links.html" title="Links">Links</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

<div id="leftcol">

<div id="leftrow1"><img src="images/home3cats.jpg" width="520" height="146" alt="cat images across top" /></div>

<div id="leftrow2">
<div id="leftrowcol1">
<h1>Welcome</h1>
<p>Welcome to the website of Feline Friends, Dubai. if you are looking for some
feline related information that is not included or have some snippets that you feel
should be made available please <a href="mailto:(snipped)">contact us</a>
with the details and we will endeavour to update the applicable pages.</p>
<h2>Help Line</h2>
<p>Feline Friends runs a helpline (Tel: ) that is staffed by volunteers, this is not a 24 hour
service!! If you get through to the voice mail please leave a message and someone
will get back to you as soon as possible, please be patient though. </p>
<p>Alternatively if your query is of a non urgent type we can be contacted through
<a href="mailto:(snipped)">email</a>.</p>
<h2>Emergencies</h2>
<p>Feline Friends is staffed purely by volunteers, most of whom have their own full
time jobs. Consequently we are not always able to respond immediately. </p>

<p>Therefore if this is the case and you are unfortunate enough to happen across an injured cat
or kitten please consider taking the time to arrange immediate veterinary care
yourself. Details of the veterinary clinics that support us in our work can be
found under cat care. Thank you. </p>
<h2> </h2>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>  </p>
<p>  </p>
<p>  </p>
<p>  </p>
<p> </p>
<p>  </p>
</div>
<div id="leftrowcol2">
</p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left"> </p>
<p align="left">  </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="rightcol">
<h1>News and Updates</h1>
<iframe width="160" height="300" src="news_newstic.html" SCROLLING="no" FRAMEBORDER="0" border=0></iframe>
<h1>Upcoming Events</h1>
<iframe width="160" height="200" src="events_newstic.html" SCROLLING="no" FRAMEBORDER="0"
border="0"></iframe>
</div>

<div id="ftr">This website is the property of Feline Friends Dubai, 2006
</div>

</div>

</body>
</html>

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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 6:57:10   
No I don't use FP either! Spend my time on here luring people away from the dark-side (sshh - don't tell anyone!).

The .htaccess file is fine. The VTI files I think are frontpage extensions but I've got those on some sites and they don't interfere with hand coding. The WYSIWYG files sound like some sort of "build your own website" thing that some hosts give away free.

The code itself seems free of FP interference.

So have you tried to make any changes to the page? If so, what software are you using to do this? Are you using FTP software to upload/mess about with files and folders? If so, might be worth downloading to your system the index.html page and just checking that there are no hidden FP bits that aren't translated to the browser.

If not I can't see why you couldn't, worst comes to worst, try copying the end product HTML (as per your post) into a blank page of Notepad or something and just upload that and see if anything odd happens.

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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 7:01:23   
...Or...

If you get really fed up - you could try using WordPress. WP is a blog system which can be used as a simple Content managment system for websites. There are literally thousands of designs to chose from which you can then upload and use for your site. It would get rid of the worry of having to mess with code if you're not sure what you're doing.

Many web hosts have a thing called Fantasico in their admin panels. Basically it's a quick install system for various bits of software. If you have this then usually Wordpress is in there. You'd want to copy the current site to your computer so you don't lose the content itself. Then delete all the .html files within the public_html folder. Then go to Fantastico and use the one-click install thing for WordPress.

Might be worth having a look at the WordPress site to see if it appeals.

NB - there are two types of wordpress site - wordpress.com hosted blogs (not what you're really after) or self-hosted wordpress sites.

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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 7:09:38   
I've set up my other own photoblog with Wordpress and am very happy with it. On this charity site I'm looking to update it with Joomla soon but I'm manic with "normal" work.

I'm just temporarily trying to update in html only until I sort out Joomla - maybe I should just wait and do it all at once. The site does have fanastico installed which is easy...

I edited the files in notepad and fully tested the 10 or so files on my c drive and they work fine.

When I deleted the old files in both the www and html_public directories the site still opperated normally - even though I had deleted index.html and everything... how is that possible?

I uploaded my new files and (some of which had the same names as the old files) like links etc and these only partially updated, rather than working as on my c drive...

It's all a bit strange...

Equally I don't want to wipe their site clean while I mess about with Joomla for a few weeks...!

Thanks for all your input!

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RE: Removing Frontpage to replace with simple HTML only... - 5/6/2009 7:53:44   
Ah great - so you know how WP can make life easier!

Could it be your browser cache causing issues? Try adding a "?" on the end of the url to force a refresh.



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