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William Lee -> Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/26/2009 13:05:14)


Hi all, kindly give me your comments for my first foray into Joomla template.

Currently all links in dropdown menu go to nowhere.

Go here.

Many thanks in advance!!



treetopsranch -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/26/2009 16:34:25)

Looks SUPER. I just bought the Visual Quickstart Guide to Joomla and someday hope to add a Joomla CMS portion to one of my clients sutes. Maybe you should be the resident expert for us to lean on?



swoosh -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/26/2009 16:34:51)

Very Nice!

but what's up with the red cross logo that appears in the background when you scroll down the page on the right side? Other than that, SWEEEET



ou812 -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/26/2009 19:40:41)

Looks a bit broken in a taller screen (I guess mine is taller? 22"). And similar to what Swoosh states, the red cross doubles on the right for me when scrolling.

I took over a couple of clients who's site are in Joomla. Takes a bit to get used to getting things working and plugging stuff in. I've found I need to go in and tweak PHP once in a while to make things play together nicely. Doing the normal updating is pretty simple, and the client does all that stuff. I get to fix things and install new mods etc.



Mango Himself -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/27/2009 11:50:08)

I see your daughter is not the only artist in the family! Congratualtions. Great job



Thomas Brunt -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/27/2009 20:42:06)

Looks like you used Artisteer for this. My wife and I use it for all our projects these days. Do you love it?



William Lee -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/28/2009 10:48:16)


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ORIGINAL: treetopsranch

Looks SUPER.

Thanks Don!

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Maybe you should be the resident expert for us to lean on?

I'm not there yet but I'll be glad to help with what I know [:)]



William Lee -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/28/2009 10:49:57)


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ORIGINAL: swoosh

Very Nice!

but what's up with the red cross logo that appears in the background when you scroll down the page on the right side? Other than that, SWEEEET


Thanks swoosh!

The logo suppose to be on the header image, I don't know what happened [&o]



William Lee -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/28/2009 10:53:11)

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ORIGINAL: ou812

Looks a bit broken in a taller screen (I guess mine is taller? 22"). And similar to what Swoosh states, the red cross doubles on the right for me when scrolling.



Thanks brian, I should have left the background image not repeat... I'll fixed it.

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I took over a couple of clients who's site are in Joomla. Takes a bit to get used to getting things working and plugging stuff in. I've found I need to go in and tweak PHP once in a while to make things play together nicely. Doing the normal updating is pretty simple, and the client does all that stuff. I get to fix things and install new mods etc.


I know who to turn to when I need things fixed [:D]



William Lee -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/28/2009 10:56:51)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mango Himself

I see your daughter is not the only artist in the family! Congratualtions. Great job


Thanks Mango for your compliments [:)]



William Lee -> RE: Critique: my first Joomla template design (6/28/2009 10:58:36)


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ORIGINAL: Thomas Brunt

Looks like you used Artisteer for this. My wife and I use it for all our projects these days. Do you love it?



Very sharp! You're spot on Artisteer and I love it!



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/10/2009 11:33:01)

I put in quite a few .png images which are big filesize, pls check out with your browser. Seems much faster with CSS compared to table.
Would like to hear comments from IE6.0 and earlier.

Please go here

thanks.



caz -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/11/2009 11:21:46)

Using IE Tester, in IE6 the menu drop downs have a transparent background, so you have to know that something is there to find them.[;)]

Isn't IE the pits? I have just spent days trying to include Mike Cherim's contact form onto a Joomla site and always, always it was IE causing problems. Done it now but I am wiped out..



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/11/2009 11:49:26)

Thanks for your info on IE Tester. I just downloaded and installed it and when I viewed the site in IE6.0....yucks!!

I'll remember your struggle[;)] with IE regarding the contact form when I get around to installing one on this site.

Thanks again.




William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/12/2009 9:03:14)


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ORIGINAL: caz


Isn't IE the pits? I have just spent days trying to include Mike Cherim's contact form onto a Joomla site and always, always it was IE causing problems. Done it now but I am wiped out..



I managed to fix the png transparency on IE6 with a script from Drew Diller call DD_belatedPNG.js

Now everything works fine from IE6 to 8 but still not working on IE5.5. If anybody knows of how to get IE5.5 to behave like the rest, I'll be very grateful to you [:)]



d a v e -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/12/2009 10:18:46)

why worry about it?

firstly, ie5.5 users are used to seeing that kind of thing
secondly, seeing a grey background is more than likely going to have very little impact on the usability of the site
thirdly, they're ie 5.5 users so tough :)



caz -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/12/2009 14:21:27)

I have a commercial template (customised a lot [;)]) and there are conditionals for IE. So you just have to treat it as a normal site with a separate <!--[if lte IE 6]>
style sheet. for IE5 and less. The current one just deals with the png fix, with js/iepngfix.htc); and that you have already dealt with. So it's the old box model business that IE5 chokes on.



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/12/2009 21:59:04)

aye to d a v e, I'll just leave IE5.5 users at peace, these are pragmatic times. There's nothing more I can do, really, as the dropdown menu is not supported in Artisteer anyway for IE below 6.0

caz lit a bulb for me on conditional comments, so I hid the dropdown menu and more importantly I managed to get the parchment centered in the scrolls instead of hugging the left of screen. Putting text-align: center for body in the CSS file does the trick.

At least now it is visually more presentable in IE5.5 than before.



caz -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/13/2009 22:23:34)

OK, now try transferring the whole site to a new server. [:@]



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/13/2009 22:27:23)

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ORIGINAL: caz

OK, now try transferring the whole site to a new server. [:@]


I'll take you on!

Here it is at my staging Joomla server.

.... still got work to do [&o] Some images are not there where they should be..sigh.



caz -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/14/2009 9:02:18)

Finally sorted mine (mostly) on the new server here but most of it is for registered users only so you won't see the forum, wiki or directory of members. Even the mass mail seems to work! Found the images too.

The major problem that I had turned out to be a permissions problem, they had all been changed during the back up and restore - that was with Joomlapack, and it was my own fault.
Now for all of the static content from the previous site...sigh.



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/14/2009 11:45:55)


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ORIGINAL: caz

Finally sorted mine (mostly) on the new server here but most of it is for registered users only so you won't see the forum, wiki or directory of members.


Nice site, very clean. I especially like the colors.

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Now for all of the static content from the previous site...sigh

oh I dread this LOL



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/19/2009 23:54:35)


I used Conditional Comments in the HTML and these do not validate at W3C. Its ok in the Head section.
Is there something I didn't do correctly?



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/20/2009 0:29:36)

The URL is here


[image]http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/upfiles/4448/F1F82FB9A46E4FCDB30795916A6C2386.gif[/image]



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/20/2009 2:11:58)

ok I managed to fix this, it sure is confusing.
The correct syntax :

<!--<![if gte IE] -->
<object></object>
<!-- <![endif] -->



Donkey -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/20/2009 9:47:52)

quote:

<!--<![if gte IE] -->
<object></object>
<!-- <![endif] -->


You haven't specified the version of IE you are targeting, and by using "gte" you are targeting IE5.5 and all versions greater than IE5.5 so you will surely cause problems with IE7 and IE8?
Also you've got an exrtra "<!" in twice.

So shouldn't that be: 
<!--[if lte IE 5.5000 ]>
<object></object>
<![endif]-->

That's the format I always use and it works.



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/20/2009 10:58:28)

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ORIGINAL: Donkey

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<!--<![if gte IE] -->
<object></object>
<!-- <![endif] -->


You haven't specified the version of IE you are targeting, and by using "gte" you are targeting IE5.5 and all versions greater than IE5.5 so you will surely cause problems with IE7 and IE8?
Also you've got an exrtra "<!" in twice.

I actually meant it to be greater or equal to IE 6.0. I wanted to hide the Artisteer dropdown menu from IE 5+ because it wasn't supported in browsers lesser than IE6.
That code that I posted doesn't work...(what was I thinking?)

quote:


So shouldn't that be: 
<!--[if lte IE 5.5000 ]>
<object></object>
<![endif]-->

That's the format I always use and it works.


Yes this works in the <Head> but I have problem using it in the body and it won't validate.
Anyway I chance upon some useful CCs from cssplay.co.uk and this time I really got it working; It will hide the menu in IE5+ and at the same time validates as XHTML 1.0 Transitional.

In Joomla, I use it as follows:
<!--[If gte IE 6]><!-->
<jdoc:include type="modules" name="user3" />
<!--<![endif]-->
where "user3" is the dropdown menu module position.

It may look s t r a n g e but it works!



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (7/27/2009 10:58:34)


quote:

ORIGINAL: William Lee

The URL is here




Update:
All previous links have been deleted but I am unable to edit the links in previous posts.
The joomla site is now 'live' here.



William Lee -> RE: How is the page loading in your browser? (8/6/2009 14:07:41)


I have been fighting hard to validate at W3C and I finally succeeded. Now all pages carries the Validate Icon [:)]

The biggest problem was with the com_spurgeon, a joomla 1.0 extension that displays C H Spurgeon's Morning & Evening's article for the current date. That component writes <p> without </p> , and use "/" in the anchor tag , like <a name="01/08/AM" /a> ...and <p> inside <pre> tags ... and more. A check with several church websites confirm that com_spurgeon does not validate at all.

I think by now I can re-write the component and share it with others.



William Lee -> My first Joomla! extension - C H Spurgeon Morning & Evening (8/10/2009 12:04:34)

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ORIGINAL: William Lee

I think by now I can re-write the component and share it with others.


ok, I finished testing and all is good. I'm surprised too [:)] The component is awaiting approval and I registered the project at http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/spurgeon

The following link should interest church webmasters hunting for this item. There was a joomla1.0 spurgeon written by Foster Brereton but that has been unpublished since joomla1.0 has reached its 'end-of-life'.
The component can be downloaded here. Its native 1.5 and XHTML compliant.

The component is used at this page: http://www.berithbpc.com/index.php?option=com_spurgeon_xhtml



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