Is there a way to do this using the FP component or is there another component lurking around out there that can do this?

thanks!
fried

As soon as you do change it, however, the title and the nav name become separate things. You can always just edit them to say the same thing, however.

If you want your site to score well in search engines, it's not a good idea to have the title be the same thing is the nav name. You would do better to put some key words in the title tag.

Thanks for the post! I will try to clarify...

Suppose I have a page with the following:
Page Properties Title :- "Hello World"
Page Banner Component Text Title :- "foo"
Navigation View Title :- "bar"

When I change the Page Banner Component Text Title to something else, from "foo to "argh" for example, I find FP automatically sets the Navigation View title to "argh" as well; i.e., I now have

Page Properties Title :- "Hello World"
Page Banner Component Text Title :- "argh"
Navigation View Title :- "argh"

The reverse is also true --- renaming in Navigation View also automatically changes the entry in the Page Banner Text Title.

It appears the FP Page Banner Component and Navigation View automatically update each other. At least that is how it appears to this rookie!

I was looking for a way to decouple these two properties so I could use short names in Nav and longer names (like the title) in the Page Banner.

Actually, I would like to just turn this "feature" off if at all possible. I don't like SW that changes explicit properties for things behind my back and doesn't at least tell me it is doing so...

If you want your banner to have different text, you'll have to manually do them... if it's a graphic, bring it into your image program and add the text you want.

Linda

Or keep the top shared border, take the banner out of it, and put your own on each individual page below the top border.

Linda

The hack I am using now is to make the Nav/Component title long and descriptive and make the Page Title short and punchy. Will also add tags per Tom's suggestion.

I will use FP Page Banner in the top shared border and will use MenuPlus TOC component set to "Use Page Title" in the left shared border as the navigation list.

It is sort of backwards from how I would want the code to appear, but in the browser it gives me a descriptive banner across the top and a short little nav listing down the left on each page, both in shared borders.

I am starting with the shared borders because they simplify page production, but I don't know how long I can hang onto the shared borders as part of the design --- too bad you can't "override" them on a page by page basis! Maybe I should be creating templates...

On the page you want to override, use
|FORMAT|SHARED BORDERS...|APPLY TO:|CURRENT PAGE|

and select/deselect whatever borders you want.

Be sure you get that CURRENT PAGE setting right or you change 'em all!

f

Once you've created a layout with tables and include pages, you can "save as" and keep using the layout for your other pages.

Linda