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Moving from ASP to ASP.net - 3/11/2010 17:10:09   
Hi all:

With the tremendous help guys like Bobby Douglas, Mojo and the great one himself, Spooky, I learned to be fairly proficient at ASP. I am not a programmer, just a guy who had an idea for a web business and learned enough ASP to do a decent job with it. That was 10 years ago.

Now 10 years have passed and my site is still using ASP. I am planning to move to ASP.net, but frankly, learning VB.net is NOT like learning VBscript. VB.net, for me, is HARD. Learning OOP is a serious learning curve.

So my question for discussion is a simple one. Other than it is getting "long in the tooth", is there any good reason I need to switch to ASP.net and learn VB.net? My fear is that ASP is going to be like Latin within 5 years and eventually IIS may not even process ASP.

Love to get your opinions.

Thank you!

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RE: Moving from ASP to ASP.net - 3/11/2010 19:02:41   
There are so many sites running ASP that it will live a long time still...

five years ago we all thought the same thing... but here we are and ASP is still widely used.

I doubt there is any compelling reason to make the change right away... providing the site still works the way you want...

If you're going to change and learn an object oriented language... I would recommend going php instead. More powerful, easier syntax, more flexibility...



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hzarabet

 

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RE: Moving from ASP to ASP.net - 3/11/2010 19:55:45   
There are some features about .net that would help, but nothing urgent.

Switching to PHP...hmmm. Never even considered that. I went with VB.net as I thought it was somewhat similar to VBscript (very little!). I am using MS SQL right now. Not sure I want to start switching to MySQL.

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hzarabet

 

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RE: Moving from ASP to ASP.net - 3/29/2010 0:21:54   
I have thought some more about Bobby''s reply and did a little research and think it may be the way to go.

1. I am not a programmer. I am a guy who would like to be a programmer one day, but right now my full time job is running my sole website.

2. Learning VB.net is HARD. VERY HARD when you are not a programmer sitting by yourself in your office. The asp.net forum is OK but the answers I get there assume you know SOMETHING! I have read books, done tutorials. It is still HARD!

I found learning asp classic fairly simple and very enjoyable to code. Code-behind may be useful, but in my circumstance I am the sole guy working on all aspects of my site.

How tough is PHP to learn? I assume it is still the ridiculed "spaghetti code"?

How solid is it on Windows and most importantly, how solid is it using MS SQL?

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RE: Moving from ASP to ASP.net - 3/29/2010 10:36:57   
My two cents...
In large corporate (3-tiered) sites we usually see MS backends...the Database server and Application servers are usually Microsoft. Many times, there is a linux front end for serving the pages.
Since we deal in large corporate sites, we like MS servers. Since we like MS servers we like ASP and .NET. However, personally, I prefer ASP classic to .NET. With the rise (again) of javascript programming as integral to the user experience (jQuery, AJAX, etc.) and the problems of versioning in .NET (we have some servers running legacy applications that CANNOT be upgraded to the 3.5 framework or it would kill the apps!) AND the huge layer of .NET sitting on top of the server, frankly I'm predicting that .NET will wane. PHP will be the "open source" preference because linux is free but I'll stick with ASP (this month anyway).

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hzarabet

 

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RE: Moving from ASP to ASP.net - 3/29/2010 11:20:14   
I too love ASP classic. I do not need code-behind. And yes "spaghetti code" looks crummy, but it is my mess so I know what it all means.

I would like to sell my site/business sooner than later and feel asp will be a hinderence in that respect. Also, I know it has been discussed that the demise of asp classic is greatly exaggerated, but I can see MS pulling its support of it on IIS in the next 5 years. I just want to be prepared.

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