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preludeok95
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Backup plan? - 12/28/2001 2:26:47
Site client was previously hosted by piggybacking on another site..which worked fine until they started having ISP problems.
Step one of solution was to get their own domain and ISP.
would like to do 2 things, but not quite sure of "how to" .
One is to have a sand box where I can publish changes and see what happens BEFORE I have to spend all night fixing it back. Maybe it was just that the old site didn't fully support FP...but also sometimes my "local client" doesn't give me the true view.I have yet to figure out why some days I can see things like hover buttons and banner ads in Preview or Windows Explorers...and other days I just get grey matter.
Second is to have ..I guess you call it a mirror site...if the main ISP is down. Most of the time this is not critical, unfortunately when availability IS critical, it is EXTREMELY critical
My thought was to sign up with a second host with equivalent features, register a different domain name..and use that as both my sandbox and mirror.
Is this a feasible solution? And...how does one manage the redirect process? I know this is a probably a beginner level question,, but if I knew the answer, I wouldn't be a card-carrying newbie.
Edited by - preludeok95 on 12/28/2001 02:29:53
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rdouglass
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RE: Backup plan? - 12/28/2001 8:53:51
Just IMHO, but I would seriously consider hosts. There are many fine hosting companies out there that are already redundant, load balanced, and mirrored in multiple locations. If availability IS a critical factor, than scrutinize the host - let them take care of those problems. Check for those things like co-locations, etc. I don't use 'em, but this VIA Networks (that hosts Outfront) doesn't seem to be down very often...
For your 'sandbox', why not use a subweb or local host computer. A subweb generally works well for me if I stick to the rules - relative URL's, etc... I also always develop and test in the sandbox...
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caywind
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RE: Backup plan? - 12/29/2001 0:21:29
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One is to have a sand box where I can publish changes and see what happens BEFORE I have to spend all night fixing it back. Maybe it was just that the old site didn't fully support FP
Excellent...as the sites get larger and more filled up, it starts to get slow to work on them live especially for a minor change. I've been toying with a setup where I build the nuts and bolts of the site live, import it to my local server, and make any further changes locally, and then publish the changes to the host server. Most all site updates and improvements are tested in the sandbox. rdouglass, look ok to you? Double redundancy. 1 backup at my location, 2cnd tape backup at web host. web host handles availability, mine is guaranteed 5 9's and they are up all the time. quote:
Second is to have ..I guess you call it a mirror site...if the main ISP is down. Most of the time this is not critical, unfortunately when availability IS critical, it is EXTREMELY critical
this is untolerable, even for non-critical sites. If this is any kind of business or application, you gotta go with a pro outfit. Xtreme, a pro host will never have to "reset" a server. A malfuntioning server will simply fail-over to another server at a pro host. Then the malfunctioning machine is pulled out of the loop and worked on. remember, 5 9's does exist.
Also, you should match your hosts web server. NT is easier to use than Linux
All this to change a number into a name...
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preludeok95
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RE: Backup plan? - 12/29/2001 1:19:13
Have been with new host nearly a month and no downtime. Previously being "guest hosted"..this was a weekly occurence and down hours, sometimes days. When you say "local host" are you referring to the box that is sitting in front of you? I just thought plan A getting a new host site shoudl include plan B..backup plan.
Appreciate the feedback..and patience..on this post. A shining example of what a community of interest is all about.
No experience other than an old HotDog page on AOL. Someone said.."do you think you could ..."? It was for a good cause, so I said I would try. Don't get compensated for the work except in warm fuzzies.
"Love what you've done with page" I was told, then the governor saw it, showed it to someone else. Very large contribution followed, matched by corporate funds. Use some of it to go forth and get your own domain and host.
And a humble beginner is born.
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sarge
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RE: Backup plan? - 12/29/2001 7:08:00
Have you tried PWS? I run every change through PWS before publishing. IMHO, it's brilliant. I can test every change, in every browser, all on my own 'box'.
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caywind
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RE: Backup plan? - 12/29/2001 12:44:17
local host means a web server at your location. easy to do. Personal Web Server comes with win 98, and IIS comes with w2k. quote:
I just thought plan A getting a new host site shoudl include plan B..backup plan
yes there is a backup at the host, but they charge to restore the files. I consider myself the first line of tech-support, since often I'm able to react faster than the host at finding the problem, and I get the call first anyway...
All this to change a number into a name...
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