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DaLeKo

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Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 13:39:00

Greetings: I use FP2000 to create the HTML that I need not only for our Web site, but also for our forums. The problem is that the forums are NOT on a FP server.

The method or process I am employing to get the formatting to remain the same on the forums is this.

1. Copy the FP2000 HTML into MS Word
2. Remove the Meta Tags
3. Click on "Edit" > "Replace" > (type in) "^p" > "Replace All"
4. Copy and paste that onto our forums

While this perfectly maintains the formatting that I see in the FP2000 "Preview" view, a big problem occurs that almost eliminates the time-saving advantage that FP is allowing me by creating the HTML for me. Many of the words *run together* following the "Edit" > "Replace" > (type in) "^p" > "Replace All" process in MS Word. It is sporadic and is always just two words that 'merge' at any given point in a document, but it forces me to go through the entire paper separating as many as 50-100 of these run together words.

Does anyone know how I might fix this problem? Or do you know a better way to get FP2000 HTML to format properly w/o going to the "Edit" > "Replace" > (type in) "^p" > "Replace All" step in MS Word?

Thanks for your help!!

David
p.s. - the forums are at www.ezboard.com and here are two links to my forums in particular. The first is a link to a "Final" Product where I have employed the "Edit" > "Replace" > (type in) "^p" > "Replace All" step, and the second is how it looks if I post directly out of FP2000 to the EzBoard forums.

[FP2000 to MSWord to our Forums ... this is how it should look]

http://pub40.ezboard.com/fgracefreechurchforumsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=49.topic

[Right Out Of FP2000 ... less Meta Tags]

http://pub40.ezboard.com/fgracefreechurchforumsfrm16.showMessage?topicID=15.topic

[This message has been edited by DaLeKo (edited 07-19-2001).]

Gil

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 14:27:00

I am confused - you say "Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation" then mention MS Word? MS Word is a desktop publishing application and should NEVER be used for HTML creation.

Can you explain further what steps you are using to create HTML?

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DaLeKo

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 18:04:00

Hi Gil, I am not "creating" HTML in my word processor, just 'reformatting' it (I guess you could say.

Here is a small sample of HTML right out of FP2000:

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<title>2 Timothy 4</title>
</head>

<body>

<address align="center">
<center>2 Timothy 4:9-22
</address>
<address align="center">
Some of Paul�s Co-Workers</center>
</address>
<blockquote>
This whole section, 4:9-18,�
breathes personal, private concerns.�
(A first person pronoun appears in every verse).�
Any alleged pseudepigrapher who supposedly created this would have been
an extraordinary genius.
</blockquote>
Verse 10<o >
</o >

Now here is how that same bit of HTML looks after I run it through my word processor:

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"><meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0"><meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document"><title>2 Timothy 4</title></head><body><address align="center"> <center>2 Timothy 4:9-22</address><address align="center"> Some of Paul�s Co-Workers</center></address><blockquote> This whole section, 4:9-18,� breathes personal, private concerns.� (A first person pronoun appears in every verse).� Any alleged pseudepigrapher who supposedly created this would have been an extraordinary genius.</blockquote>Verse 10<o ></o >

Directly out of FP2000, my posts appear to have too many line breaks " "

See this post:

http://pub40.ezboard.com/fgracefreechurchforumsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=49.topic

Verses this post:

http://pub40.ezboard.com/fgracefreechurchforumsfrm16.showMessage?topicID=15.topic

But by using a word processor to bring all the HTML codes together, it corrects the problem by simply obeying the code (I guess). But then I am left with words that run together :-(

I am very new at all this. If I haven't explained myself very well here, please tell me and I'll try again.

Thanks for your help!!

David

[This message has been edited by DaLeKo (edited 07-19-2001).]

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Gil

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 18:11:00

Yep - all that <center>2 Timothy 4:9-22 crap is what's causing the problem. That's MS Word (the MSO is Microsoft Office) code and the only way to get rid of it is to copy the text to notepad and then copy to FP or when you paste to FP use the "Paste Special" function. But that defeats what you are attemping - formating w/ Word.

Sorry, but you just can't use Word formatting in an HTML page and expect any decent kind of results.

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DaLeKo

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 18:42:00

Gil wrote:

"Sorry, but you just can't use Word formatting in an HTML page and expect any decent kind of results."

Ahh, so I need to create the original in FP. Perhaps I can talk my pastor into doing just that (or maybe not :-). Maybe it would help to explain exactly what I am up to and have you tell me how you would handle the problem.(?)

My pastor e-mails me documents as attachments. He wants them posted on our Web Site and/or our forums looking just the way he has them formatted in the Word documents. So I copy and paste them into FP2000 and go from there.

Is there another way to get the same results without a) Retyping his document into FP rather than pasting it OR b) Having him create the original in FP? (there would be several problems with this approach considering the other mediums that his documents are often produced in)

Thanks again for your help :-)

David

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Goober

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 19:18:00

Re-read Gil's last post.

However, I've found that plopping into Notepad doesn't always take out everything. I still have to clean the span tags out.

Sandy

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Nancy

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/19/2001 21:44:00

You might also consider putting some energy into helping your pastor understand the limits of HTML. It was not designed to handle all the formatting he desires.

Nancy

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DaLeKo

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RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/20/2001 20:53:00

Thanks for your help everyone

I tried using NotePad and it is better, but I am still losing some formatting, have too many incorrect line wraps in my sentences / paragraphs, and all the spaces between paragraphs, titles, subtitles, etc. double in size for some reason.

The *ONLY* method I have found that holds ALL my formatting from FrontPage onto the EzBoard forums is the one I describe in my first post above. And this is w/o any editing of the FP HTML. Even with all the gobbledygook (MS Office Code, Span Tags, etc.) still in there, everything is formatted, spaced, centered, aligned left or right, etc. ... PERFECTLY the first time and looks just like the original from my pastor (except for the about 10-20 words per page that run together).

I'll keep experimenting and let you all know what I find ... if I do actually find anything

Thanks again!

David

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MelissaB Posts: 48 From: GA Status: offline	RE: Using FP2000 On A Non-FP Server For HTML Creation - 7/20/2001 20:32:00 Is your pastor creating these documents -just- for you to put on the web? If so, you might be able to talk him to into creating them with FrontPage or even FrontPage Express. If he's creating them for other purposes and you, then I'd work with the text conversions. ------------------ ~~~~~~~~* Melissa http://lissa.right-web.com (in reply to DaLeKo)

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