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WRXSTi

 

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Consulting ?? - 3/10/2002 17:43:14   
I was recently asked to do some consulting for a company in my local area. It would consist of updating some of the already live web pages, adding in some new forms, pages and a new database query (integrating their current dB to the web) etc for internal users.

The new pages may consist of some of the following: Adobe animated graphics, ASP, SQL, CDONTS, and of course HTML.

Since this is my fist run at consulting I would like to get a hint at what people get for web consulting. I was thinking keeping it simple and quoting an hourly rate.

Me
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RE: Consulting ?? - 3/10/2002 21:27:42   
If the client is used to paying hourly contractors then it will be a nice way to go. If the client has little experience with hourly contractors you may end up with problems.

IMO most clients like to see a bid on the whole project. They can accept the idea that your bid may be off by a bit, but the want/need an idea of the budget. When they pay hourly there is always the concern that they are getting ripped off by less than honest contractors.

The hourly rate will depend a lot on your location, what your are being asked to do and to some degree the length of the project.

If I have small projects ( < $1500 ) I ask for 1/2 up front (most clients understand and will have little or no problem with this) unless it is a large client just needing some improvements.

Mid sized projects for me are usually in the $2000 to $5000 range. If the client is a small company I get 1/3 up front. If a large client I just bill them.

For a large project I am all over the place for my billing. It just depends on the company and my relationship with them. In my latest large project I am billing every 2 weeks. I have just broke up the project into a billing cycle.

My hourly rate is anywhere from $45 to $75 per hour depending on the scope and length of the project. 90% of the time my rate is $50 per hour. The Chicago market is very soft so what is $50 now was $65 - $70 not too long ago.

I find that I am getting a LOT of work lately as the development firms are charging anywhere from $90 to $140 per hour for the same work that I am doing. They have too much overhead to charge what I do. Once your reputation gets going you should be pretty busy.

I hope I have given some useful information. When I first went independent learning how to make an accurate bid and what to bill was often the most difficult part of a project.

Joe



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paperfish

 

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RE: Consulting ?? - 3/11/2002 8:27:46   
An hourly rate does keep things simple. In addition to the excellent advice from jbennett, here are a couple of things to keep in mind if it is a fixed price contract:

1. Scope Creep (i.e. the scope of the project expands as you get into it). This will happen even when everyone has the best of intentions - you want to do a good job for the client and you've got to know them and ... You can end up in a financial bind, especially if the person paying the bills is not also directing the work. To prevent scope creep make sure that you and your client agree on a detailed description of the work - in writing. And you should also agree on an hourly or daily rate for work over and above the original. Of course you will do little extras, but if they start to accumulate, at least you have a basis for additional fees.

Schedule Shrinkage - you have agreed to a finish date but while the work keeps expanding, the deadline doesn't change. This can be a real problem when you are working on projects for other clients. The best way to address this is to call the client's attention to the potential problem as soon as you see it coming, not at the last minute.

I hope this doesn't sound as if you need a lawyer at your side. Sitting down with the client and documenting the scope of the work is a professional approach. It can be beneficial for clients as well, since they have to clearly describe what they want. The client from hell is the one that says, "I'm not sure what I want but I'll let you know when I see it."

Regards (with grey hair and bruises!)

 

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WRXSTi

 

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RE: Consulting ?? - 3/11/2002 10:11:30   
Thanks, guys !! Your comments have been helpful, giving me a insight of things to keep a eye on. Before I posted this was thinking in the range of 50 - 60/hr which sounds in line as well. What I did not know was what the dev frims were charging.

I do have Eng. expierance behind me so I understand keeping a eye on the scope of the project as well.

What I don't have a feel on is what's concidered a small/med/large projects.

I'm thinking I'll stick with geting the project in writing and a hourly rate. If changes are made as I go then defining those changes as they afftect the development.

Me

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