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Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 1:59:58   
Can I insert <style> for hyperlinks if I have a Theme applied to the site?

OR

How do I modify the hyperlink style and colors and add a hover within the theme.

I tried FORMAT>THEMES but I couldn't see where to modify the hyperlinks.

Can I use a CSS with a theme?

I am using FP 2002

Thanks, MomX4

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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 11:41:49   
Hi,

To modify the hyperlink through themes. Go to Format,Themes,Modify, Select Color if you want to just change the color or hyperlink font. I am not sure if you can add a hover button through the theme but you can add a hover button by selecting insert web component and select Dynamic Effects, select hover button and continue from there.
I hope this helps.
I am not sure about CSS.

Mytruespirit.


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 11:55:08   
Great, Thanks, I just wasn't looking deep enough.

I still would like to add a Hover color to my hyperlinks. All I have is Link, Visited and Active. In the modify>theme area.

Also, Is there a way to look at the Theme HTML?

Thanks, MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 12:06:30   
Sounds like I can't change the effects of a hyperlink within a theme. So... Should I get rid of my theme? All I really wanted from the theme was the back ground. If I remove the theme, What else will be messed up? How do I add the back ground back in. Should I do this at all? Am I causing more problems then it's worth? If I remove the Theme do I have to add CSS?

MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 13:31:43   
I am answering my own questions, cool!
I added my first CSS (and the Theme is still applied) to all my pages in the web. Thanks Katherine for the OutFront CSS Tutorial (above-top). Are there any words of wisdom for using CSS I need to know? All I have in there is the hover button actions.

Thanks, MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 13:50:49   
It didn't apply the CSS to "all pages". Do I have to add the CSS to all the pages individually, because the "all pages" didn't work? MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 14:02:10   
Actually, the code was applied to all the pages. When I preview in browser it works, but the hyperlink actions in the CSS does not work on the live site one the www. Any Ideas? MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 21:26:17   
Hi Mom - Hate to interrupt your monologue! My words of wisdom are to make your css am external file - saves loads of time in making changes. Once you import that into your web, you should be able to do format/style sheet links and select the css file and click all pages. Dumb question, but you do have a "web" open, right, not just a single page?

 

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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 21:54:25   
Yes, I have my web open.

I think this is what I did. I made a new page with the .css extention. then I inserted:

<style>
<!--
a:link {text-decoration:none; color:#0000FF;}
a:visited {text-decoration:none; color:#999999;}
a:hover {text-decoration:underline; color:#FF0000;}
a:active {text-decoration:underline; color:#00BFFF;}
-->
</style>

After I save it as a .css it changes to:

<style>{ }
a:link {text-decoration:none; color:#0000FF;}
a:visited {text-decoration:none; color:#999999;}
a:hover {text-decoration:underline; color:#FF0000;}
a:active {text-decoration:underline; color:#00BFFF;}
-->
</style>

Then I put this:

<LINK REL=STYLESHEET TYPE="text/css" HREF="Pro-Comm.css">

Into the pages using FORMAT>STYLE SHEET LINK, clicked on the file and selected "All pages". Then I published the site. At first it looked like all the pages had the code for the CSS, but only a few of the pages actually perfomed the way it was supposed to ie Red hover for example.

Did I do this right? I even re-calculated the hyperlinks and re-published. I don't have to re-publish the whole site do I? I don't have DSL and it takes 3-4 hours.

Thanks, MomX4






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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 23:38:57   
Yikes! 3-4 Hours Holy schmoley!!

I think in your css file you don't need the <style> tags or comments. I also would save it lowercase with no hyphen but that's just me and probably doesn't make any difference. I think I would also make the hover the last entry. Try that. Has to be faster than doing the whole site!

 

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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/15/2002 23:49:18   
Here is what I have done:
I changed the .css file so it would publish. I have the web open and all the files closed (this time). I went to FORMAT>STYLE SHEET LINKS. The “all pages” was selected since all the pages were closed. I selected the Pro-Comm.css file etc. Now, all the files I checked have the code to look for my .css file. Following me? Then I re-calculated the hyperlinks (I don't know if that matters here). Then I published changed pages, which was the Pro-Comm.css.

Again, not all the pages worked. SO.. I went back looked at the HTML and the pages that work, have the code <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="Pro-Comm.css"> right under the opening <head>. The ones that are NOT working (so it appears) have the code on the 6th line.

Do I have to go in manually and change the location on the code to the top line? I have 130 pages.

Help me out here please, Thanks, MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 0:56:37   
Ok EWD, I will give that a try. However, I am just doing what I am told here at the Newbie forum. I had active last because that's what PageOneResults said to do in the "Underlined Links" #13923 Forum. And The code is in all caps because I copied it from the OutFront Tutorial - CCS#3 (above).

One other thing that I think is important. I can see the code in preview on my home computer but when I "view source" in the live site, the code is not there. Interesting. The code I'm talking about is the: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../Pro-Comm.css"> Of course.

Another thing I just noticed is that not all the codes are capitalized. Some are and some arn't. How can this be?

Here is a page that is working:

<head>
<LINK REL=STYLESHEET TYPE="text/css" HREF="Pro-Comm.css">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>About Pro-Comm</title>
<style>
<!--
h2 { color: #0000FF }
-->
</style>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="Pro-Comm.css">
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="pixel-pro-comm 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tb, default">
</head>

Here is a page that is not working:

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Customer Pages</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../Pro-Comm.css">
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="pixel-pro-comm 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tb, default">
</head>

Keep the advice coming, Thanks, MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 1:02:44   
NOT WORKING<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../Pro-Comm.css">

YES WORKING<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="Pro-Comm.css">

Is the NOT WORKING one looking on my C drive? The same problem I'm having with the WORD ART. ANYWAY.......



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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 1:03:03   
Ummm. I was always under the impression you couldn't use both CSS and themes together.

 

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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 1:25:42   
EWD, I changed the file name from Pro-Comm.css to procomm.css and guess what? It changed every page (all 136 of them) so I am not sure how long it will take to publish - it looks like it is going fast. I hope this works.

But I noticed something else. The code that is working (above)had 2 lines of code. sigh!!!

Thanks for your continued feedback and advice. I guess we will see if it's ok to have a theme and CSS. I have no Idea. I just learned this CSS stuff this morning.

Thanks, MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 1:40:02   
Oh my, This is a riot. In the middle of the publishing, I got an error saying my server is down. Oh my!

HOWEVER - get this, the site appears to be to be working. HURRAY!!!

Thanks so much for your help. I am so glad to see the red hovers.

And guess what? You CAN have a theme and CSS. So it seems as of now.

Thanks so much, MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 1:50:56   
EWD I think it was the no caps and no hyphen that did the trick. In looking at the "ViewSource" of the now working pages, even thought the publishing was not finished, the file says procomm.css.

You did it!!! THANKS SO SO MUCH!!! MomX4


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RE: Themes and Styles - 4/16/2002 7:19:02   
No, no, Momx4, YOU did it! I always wondered if you could have both a theme and external css and now I am very anxious to try it myself! Thank YOU!!

 

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