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It did not work. My guess is that the text file you create, anything.ram only looks for anything.rm extensions. Is this a correct assumption?

I know there is a way to stream a mp3, because I have seen a website that is doing it. Would appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance,

Nick

From what I've learned, you need to make a text file in notepad and save it as a .m3u
Exactly like streaming a real audio file, but saving as .m3u instead of .ram

No problem did this, and imported it into my "Audio" folder. Published and get the error message: "Unable to establish a connection with the server."

I am stuck, any ideas?

Thanks,

Nick

Listen I have never recorded with Real Jukebox. However, try this:

In notepad type:

http://www.yoursite.xxx/audio/yyyy.rmj

xxx = .com or .org (whatever you are)
yyyy = name of song
audio = is the folder that I import my .ram and .rm files into... Not sure how you do it.

Click 'save as'
Name it the same as the name of your audio file. ex: mysong.ram (DO NOT FORGET THE .RAM)

This creates the text file that will stream a .rm...

Import .ram file into your web.

Make sure you link to the .ram file not the .rmj file.

Hopefully it will stream a .rmj audio file.

If not, then download 'real producer' and re-record with it, and you will have a .rm file!

Let me know!

Still trying to figure out how to stream a bloody mp3... Thinking that my host does not have proper configuration to stream .mp3s.

This is now a personal mission of mine... haha

Nick

I finally with a lot of help, figured out how to stream mp3s!

If you would prefer mp3 sound quality, let me know!

As the guy says in Waterboy: "You Can Do It!"

Nick

That's what keeps these Forums going.

Jego

To Stream a mp3

Obviously you need a mp3, but to stream it you can't just publish a web with a mp3 and have user click on it, or the user will have to download it first. (For a dialup, that may be only way, more on this later)

In order to stream you must create a text file known to the mp3 world as a m3u.

Create this text file by opening up notepad (start, program, accessories, notepad)

example of text file:

http://www.yourwebsname.nnn/folder/yyyyy.mp3

nnn = .com/org/net (whatever your site is)
folder = this is name of folder you put your audio files in. (i simply name mine Audio)
yyyyy = name of mp3 (don't forget the .mp3 after)[example: Rokmywrld.mp3]

After you have this line of code finished, then click 'save as' and name it exact same name as name of mp3, replacing the .mp3 extension with .m3u extension. [example: Rokmywrld.m3u]

Next import both mp3 and m3u into your folder. [I call my folder 'Audio']

Now create hyperlink to m3u file, NOT mp3 file. This file will in turn stream actual mp3 song!

Couple of notes:
1. My big problem was the song i was experimenting with had spaces in the name. [dada - dorina.mp3] Nothing I did worked until I renamed song without spaces [dorina.mp3]. From what I've been taught Internet Explorer hates spaces. Get rid of them!
2. After I got the darn song to stream I tested it on my cable modem and it was sweeet! However, i decided to test a dial up modem and i lose sound soon after starting (Something about low fi vs hi fi recording, but that was not the issue here)... My guess at this point is that mp3s eat more bandwith than a stinking dialup has to give. (Someone will have to confirm that, as I am not sure)

Please try it. Let me know if you have problems with my instructions. I will attempt to help all who ask.

This is a wonderful forum, and I appreciate the help myself!

Nick

[This message has been edited by Nick (edited 10-11-2001).]

Follow these instructions. You will find them very similiar to streaming a mp3.

In order to stream you must create a text file known to the Real Audio world as a .ram

Create this text file by opening up notepad (start, program, accessories, notepad)

example of text file:

http://www.yourwebsname.nnn/folder/yyyyy.rm

nnn = .com/org/net (whatever your site is)

folder = this is name of folder you put your audio files in. (i simply name mine Audio)

yyyyy = name of rm (don't forget the .rm after)[example: Rokmywrld.rm]

After you have this line of code finished, then click 'save as' and name it exact same name as name of .rm file, replacing the .rm extension with .ram extension. [example: Rokmywrld.ram]

Next import both .rm and .ram files into your folder. [I call my folder 'Audio']

Now create hyperlink to .ram file, NOT .rm file. This file will in turn stream actual .rm file!

Let me know!

Nick

Unless you have web pages at a web host that's particularly geared for music streaming you'll not be able to do it. I never tried this way of creating a text file named .mpu before but I just gave it a shot and all I got was an html page showing the line of code that was written on it.

And you're right about the download bandwidth of 56k modems not rendering a stream well. It has to be an extremely small file in order to stream on telephone modems. A regular 128k MP3 will only stream the first couple of seconds and then stop. It needs to be down around 32k to stream on phone modems. Not exactly high quality but its the best you can do.

You may be right about only certain hosts being able to handle audio files. But you can without a doubt stream just the way I have instructed.

What is a mpu?

www.discerningthetimespublishing.com

Click on 'FAQ' then click on audio icon for streamed mp3. Click on 'seven' for streamed real audio file. If you have a phone line you will not hear more than a few seconds of song, but thats not the point here.

Yes, it can be done. If someone has followed my instructions and it still doesn't work, then ask your host if they are capable of audio. If they are and you are still not able, post that here.

Nick

Well I'm willing to try anything once.

I gotta tell ya though, I just tried both the links on the faqs page and neither of them would render a stream for me. So then I tried downloading them and opening with various music software utilities...still nothing. So then I tried to change the file extension of the m3u file to mp3 and that still wouldn't make it play. Any other suggestions? I'm thinking that it's playing the files on your HD and not really downloading a stream maybe. Try deleting the copies of those music files that are on your HD (along with both windows and explorer temp files) and then download a fresh one and see if it will still stream and let us know how it does.

I mean,I'm not knocking it; I don't know anything about mu3 files so this is new to me. Maybe there really is a way to do that like you say but so far I'm not having any luck with it.

And no, it's not a problem on my end; I stream audio all the time with no problems so its gotta be something else. Let me know if you figure it out.

I don't have a clue why you can't hear either the real audio or mp3 audios... I have checked both on my computer at the office and have no problem with either.

I am the webguy for our church assembly and I put all our Pastor's messages online in real audio format. We have dozens of people listening and downloading messages every week. I know this because I get the emails asking me why the new messages arn't up by Sunday night...

I am very interested though in why you can't listen to them...

Will you do me a favor and go to:

www.butnow.org and try to listen to any of these audios and also try www.gracefortoday.org and attempt to listen to their mp3 messages.

I would like to know if you can listen to either of these sites.

Thanks,

Nick

[This message has been edited by Nick (edited 10-16-2001).]

I also opened my Real Audio player made it the default player for mu3 and mp3 files and it now opens all your streams without a hitch.

There's also a glitch in this deal with IE6 trying to open both streaming and non-streaming files within the browser window (if you don't have IE6 yet, there's an option for doing that and when you click on an mp3 file for instance, a little mini audio player opens in the bottom left portion of the browser window.) I've noticed that some servers have gone to this goofy way of downloading mp3 files. They won't let you just right-click and "save target as" or it will only try to download the html page the file sits on. Instead you have to left click and then you'll be prompted to either save the file or play it from the browser window. I've found that on those particular servers the browser window in IE7 simply won't play the file (this is non-streaming mp3 I'm talking about.) You HAVE to choose to save it to disk or undo the option in IE7 for "playing music files within the borwser" and instead allow WMP to stream it. Thing is, WMP7 won't render the stream unless you go into options and actually "un"check the MP3 format option. It's just insane!

Boy has MS screwed up on this one.

Nick

Confused yet? And please take my advice and if using IE6.0 go into advanced options and make sure it "doesn't" try to play music files from "within" the browser window. You've been warned!