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Mike54
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It' s a Babys World - 7/9/2002 11:20:48
This is the beginning of my first non company site. It still has a lot of filling out to be done and some sections have little content as yet but I' d welcome any input or suggestions. I' m particularly concerned about load speed as it' s image heavy (testing at home on cable it seemed fine but cable isn' t the standard yet). Please let me know what you think.
Oops almost forgot Babys World
TIA 
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RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/9/2002 12:29:11
Mike,
Standard 56k dial-up took 59 seconds. Just thought I' d pass that along
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RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/9/2002 12:36:16
Looks good. Appropriate colors for the subject and very clear navigation.
If you would like me to dig it out I have a cgi script somewhere to set up a babyname chooser, with several thousand names in a db searchable by meaning, origin, sex, beginning letters or ending letters.
Might be a fun little addition and get some traffic in.
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Mike54
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RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/9/2002 13:00:39
Thanks Swoosh, I was afraid of that. The (four) main images on the home page total almost 80 K added to the small one the page just kind of chokes. I think I' ll have to trim that 80 K by at least half.
Katherine, if you come across that script it might be fun to play with and it might just a a little something to the site. Thanks
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RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/9/2002 13:28:24
Oh, one more thing.
I just noticed that some of the Brand Name graphics are links. This is not altogether obvious. When and where appropriate, maybe you can add small type underlined links that say something like:
More Bonivita styles >>
More EG styles >>
This way visitors will not miss out on the other product offerings.
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RE: RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/9/2002 16:57:38
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How about a touch of shadow on the images rather than enclosing them completely?
I don' t know if adding shadows to the photos would be too much of a good thing. You have created various company logos in that manner and they look nice. Another thought is to simply add a border thickness of probably not more than 1 pt. via the FrontPages picture properties menu ( but not on the photos where you' ve feathered the borders. They look perfect). There' s enough black on the page with the text that it wouldn' t look odd. But, imho, the photos would look better with a border.
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Whoa, did I say " client" ? That sounds a whole lot better than " the boss wants this done" . Same thing but still better.
Bravo!
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The " notice of links" is going to be in the lead paragraph of each page.
Just so they' re intuitive for most visitors.
btw, I' m a Calvin fan too. I really miss him every morning. Tho some folk didn' t like him, I think the creator caught the spirit of many kids, both young and young-at-heart.
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RE: RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/11/2002 9:32:30
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Thanks for taking a look. I appear to have some significant work to do to improve the speed, looks like I' ll be compromising graphic quality a bit. 
Hi Mike,
You' ll compromise quality if you keep redoing the same photo over again. For some it may be better to start over from scratch, though I' m not suggesting it specifically for photos on your site.
Additional random thoughts:
On further looking, my opinion is that the photos on the home page are probably a bit large; maybe in a few other places too.
Sometimes I reduce the overall size of a photo or graphic (and therefore load time) by selecting an image and resizing a tad via FrontPage, then resampling. I use the undo command until I get the size I like before resampling. This does not necessarily reduce visual quality, tho it can.
Also, have you considered using thumbnail images for some of the products on the interior pages, such as here:
http://www.babysworldonline.com/Collections/Bonavita.htm
Have you checked the file size of the header include? It' s all graphics. Maybe if you do some tweaking, it will help speed up all pages. For example, some if not all the graphics there are jpgs. They would be a much smaller file size if they were saved as gifs.
In fact, several of your graphics are jpgs (which can add to increased loading time) when they could have been gifs (often smaller in file size). I haven' t tried this from the speed perspective, however maybe you can quickly convert the appropriate ones by using the Set Transparent Color tool on the white background of each jpg that is NOT a photo. If it doesn' t reduce page loading time, I wouldn' t approach it in this manner.
gail
PS I noticed you placed a comment to yourself somewhere " add sassy." I was just recently told about the add comments feature in FrontPage. Place your cursor where you want to add a comment, then Insert > Comment. It really is a wonderful feature to place notes for yourself which will not be seen on the web.
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RE: RE: It' s a Babys World - 7/13/2002 8:32:40
Hi Mike,
Like the site. Only thing I thought to mention was the top navigation. The images all have the trailing hyperlink blue line. I took a peek at you code thinking I would find you hit the space bar at the end but that was not it.
I think it is the way you having the closing </a> tag and closing </td> placed. Here is a snippet from them...
<a href=" products/strollers/strollers.htm" >
<img border=" 0" src=" images/new_sm_images/twin_stroller_62.jpg" alt=" Strollers from Combi, Peg-Perego, Graco and more." width=" 62" height=" 72" >
</a>
</td>
Where I think this would get rid of that effect...
<a href=" products/strollers/strollers.htm" >
<img border=" 0" src=" images/new_sm_images/twin_stroller_62.jpg" alt=" Strollers from Combi, Peg-Perego, Graco and more." width=" 62" height=" 72" ></a></td>
I used NN 4.79 on Win XP Pro set to 1024X768 res..
Brian
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Very lovely site; warm, welcoming, cuddly...just as it should be for a babys world. 
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) I almost decided not to wait for it. 
