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anyonewebs -> Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/21/2002 17:54:19)

I' m hosting my site on a Unix server. Everything to the right of the domain name is case sensitive because of the Unix file system. So Index.htm is a different page than index.htm. Has anyone found a way to work around this so that someone can enter index.htm and not worry about the case?

I can' t even make a file called index.htm and Index.htm because I' m working with FrontPage and the windows file system doesn' t allow that because they are not unique. I thought about making a Index.htm and index.htm file using FTP but that would be an administrative nightmare to do that for all the files I need.

Any ideas? Thanks.



Rian -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/21/2002 17:57:50)


Try this FP add-in from Jimco.....

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Case Changer 1.5

Case Changer will change all files and folders in your Web to lower case. This is a life saver when working with Unix servers!


http://www.jimcoaddins.com/com.asp

Rian [;)]



Gil -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/21/2002 19:33:59)

What am I missing here? If you just name everything using lowercase characters there isn' t a problem.



anyonewebs -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/21/2002 22:45:16)

Thanks, Rian.

Gil, If someone has caps lock on and types in an address, for example, WWW.MYDOMAIN.COM/CONTACT.HTM they would get a 404 not found message. The www.mydomain.com part will resolve, but the CONTACT.HTM part won' t. So if I make all the pages in caps or all the pages lower case, I can' t win. Plus, I can' t account for people typing " Contact.htm" .




Gil -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/21/2002 23:12:39)

anyone, You are right - But after reading web logs for over ten years I guess I' ve seen less than 1/2 of 1% type a page within a site - almost all hits on " interior" pages are from links on the index page and less than that are typed in as http:www.domain.com/index.html it' s almost always http://www.domain.com And http://www.domain.com will get to http://www.domain.com/Index.html or http://www.domain.com/index.htm or http://www.domain.com/Default.htm



anyonewebs -> RE: RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/22/2002 17:11:09)

Thanks Gil.

I think I' m just anal. I do have people that might type " www.mydomain.com/webmail/" just because its fast an easy. I think your right though that people either go to the domain or have a bookmark to a specific page.

I can' t think of any way to solve my problem. I could redirect people to a frame or another page, but I have no way of being able to " catch" the people that go to " InDeX.htm" .

I think that the web is currently not case sensitive. It shows the Windows bias. I think Unix webserver should comply.



Gil -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/22/2002 19:15:50)

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I think Unix webserver should comply.


Well, since the Unix way is the " correct" way and MS is the only ones ignoring case - I' d vote for MS to comply [8D]

Good Luck...



Justjay -> RE: RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/22/2002 19:54:56)

What makes the UNIX way the correct way? Who cares?? If the URL is in lowercase then the user needs to type the name in lower case...it has been this way ever since I can remember...you can' t nursemaid the entire web population....and that half of a percent...please is it worht it???



Gil -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/22/2002 20:56:03)

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If the URL is in lowercase then the user needs to type the name in lower case...it has been this way ever since I can remember...you can' t nursemaid the entire web population


Amen!

BTW: What makes it the right way is: Computer programs are supposed (by design) tell the difference. Until Mickeysoft came along everyone knew it and played by the rules [8D]



Doug G -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/22/2002 21:32:53)

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BTW: What makes it the right way is: Computer programs are supposed (by design) tell the difference. Until Mickeysoft came along everyone knew it and played by the rules

Yep, then MS improved on the old " rules" and made things more usable and got real popular, which annoyed the old school no end :) Without exception, the users in my market are hampered by case-sensitive URL' s. Case sensitivity has a place, but not in a URL imho. I also think case-insensitive filenames makes life much more pleasant.

$0.02








Gil -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/23/2002 9:21:35)

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then MS improved on the old " rules" and made things more usable and got real popular, which annoyed the old school no end :) Without exception, the users in my market are hampered by case-sensitive URL' s. Case sensitivity has a place, but not in a URL imho. I also think case-insensitive filenames makes life much more pleasant.


I' m sure you are right about the " more pleasant" for a lot of people. I guess its just me not being able to forget my roots. At my " day" job I deal with files and direcrories all day with names like: Corp.ID.New and Corp.ID.NEW <- two different files with different data and meanings, so I' m used to using proper case.

For a " Windows" world - you' re right it would be easier to have case insensitivity. But not living in that world I tend to not see it. Sorry...



anyonewebs -> RE: RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/23/2002 13:49:18)

Gil,

Could you imagine if domain names would be case sensitive! IBM would have to register IBM.com, ibm.com, Ibm.com, etc. etc.

For a three letter domain you would have 9 combinations. That would get expensive fast.

Plus, imagine tring to tell someone a case sensitive domain over the phone. " Please go to www.TheWeb.com. You have to type the T and W in uppercase and the rest in lower case" . Or try putting that in a radio commerical.

Even if I was using Unix I wouldn' t want to use a different case to make them unique. I would avoid it like the plague because its confusing. I could just imaging writing a program where I accidently updated the file III.txt instead of iii.txt!

I vote for no more case sensitive!



Gil -> RE: Unix Server Case Sensitive, FP Isn' t (8/23/2002 14:12:25)

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anyonewebs,

LOL - I do not advocate changing the HTTP protocol [:D]

Domains have always been and should be case insensitive - file names on the other hand " I" think " should" be case sensitive.

But - enough is enough - let' s move on




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