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c1sissy
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Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/15/2002 9:52:20
Can you move photos from your computer and place them on a disc without messing them up? I have well over a thousand photos on my computer that I' d like to remove. I have a fairly large hd, but I would like to not have them on here in case soemthing should happen, I' d loose all of my pictures. What I' d like to do is just move each one of the files onto the cd instead of copying them. Which windows xp home would allow me to do. Is this possible?
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Seventh
Posts: 1235 Joined: 8/4/2002 From: The Motor City Status: offline
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/15/2002 12:57:10
If you want to simply move the Photo files to a CD all you have to do is insert a blank CD-R disc into your CD-Rewriter(CD-RW), open up the CD Creation software such as EasyCD Creator(Adaptec) or Roxio, etc. and transfer the files to CD. Now, I would suggest copying the files to CD and then deleting them from your harddrive. Why? Just in case the CD Transfer suddenly stops working...then you' re screwed. Plus you can make sure that all the files transfered by checking the amount of files on disc compared to your harddrive. Depending on how big the individual files are you may have to use several CD-R' s as the maximum for such discs are between 650mb-800mb.
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c1sissy
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/15/2002 13:14:19
Seventh: I know what you mean about checking the cd' s. During a backup last year, I lost all my sons high school pictures. 190 pictures of graduation etc. Somehow the data didn' t transfer when I placed the things on cd. LOL, I should have just let my nephew do it for me instead of pulling out the bull horns and doing it myself. Strange that was the only one that got messed up. i have no clue why things didn' t work on that one cd, but...... One day a program WILL come along that will help me fix them up. I have confidence in the inventors out there. I' m just patiently waitng to restore the data somehow. heavey heavy sigh. thanks for the reply!! appreciate it deeply!!
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Seventh
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/15/2002 20:25:12
If you still have the disc there are several companies out there that can retrieve the data from a CD-R. I' m not sure how much they cost but when I was at GM several of us had CD-R' s (with thousands of presentations) in storage that had gotten wet from a busted water pipe, and we couldn' t use them. We didn' t want to throw them away so we contacted our IT Department. They were sent out to a Data Recovery Specialist that retrieved the information from the CD-R' s. I don' t know how much it cost but I' m sure it was a pretty penny. You may be able to do a search and find a company that can retrieve the info. I found this one for you: http://www.arrowkey.com/cd-r_diagnostic.html I just ran a search at MSN for CD-R Recovery. Who knows, you may come across a site that will show you a way to recover the info for free. Good luck.
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nowlkldy
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/15/2002 23:19:08
One thing to consider is file type. If you save your pix as JPEG' s they will degrade a bit each time you open and work with them. If you save them as TIFF, BMP or PNG those are " lossless" formats and you won' t lose anything. They take up more file space but if you transfer them to CD like you' re doing, you can save HD space. It' ll take more CD' s to store them, depending on how many you have but CD' s are dirt cheap nowdays. Dave
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Charles W Davis
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/16/2002 16:35:46
c1sissy, quote:
I know that jpeg looses some of the quality each time you copy them for something. I don' t believe that moving or copying a jpg will cause a jpg to loose anything. Only if you open the file in a photo editor, change someting and then close the file. Keep your original image, and save all revised copies with a new file name. I usually just add and " r" at the end of the file name so that I can recognize the original.
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_gail
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/16/2002 17:22:24
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jpeg looses some of the quality each time you copy them for something. jpg Conversion I know this is the general belief but a few months ago I read an article in Popular Photography which stated they did not find this to be true for the first 20 saves IF you use the least compression setting. They did extensive testing before coming to this conclusion. I' ve always found PP to be a very reliable magazine. Personally, I' ve never converted my jpgs to tiffs or bmps before burning them into a CD, or copying them to a Fotoshow zip drive. As has already been stated, if you go this route then my primary suggestion would be to save the integrity of the image by not altering the originals in any way. EasyCD Creator v.5 Platinum I don' t know what version of EasyCD Creator you used, but if you (or anyone you know) have v.5 platinum, it has a CD utility to recover lost files via it' s " directCD" program. It may be worth a try before bringing it in to some place where you must pay them to attempt a recovery. It can be quite expensive. Move or burn? Also, c1sissy, a lot of terms have been used here: move, transfer, copy, burn. I' d like to focus on your statement: " What I' d like to do is just move each one of the files onto the cd instead of copying them." I' m not sure what you mean here. If by " move...files onto..." you mean simply copying them onto a formatted CD-RW disk, I' d be concerned. I have not had reliable results using a CD-RW disk for standard copying. Transferring by a direct burn into a CD-R, as has been pointed out, is the way to go. I recommend " finalizing" a burn of this type unless you really understand how to do additional burns later. btw, my CD-burner is about a year old so the technology may have improved during that time. gail
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c1sissy
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/16/2002 17:38:18
  Is there nothing simple in the realm of computers??!! Gail: I have the xp home, now I can take the file that my pictures on in and move it to the cd. However since there is concern that this might not work then I' d opt for placing this in the Roxio Cd creator 5.0 version. I did try to see if I could recover these things from the easy cd creator since that is what I had used in the first place to create this cd. In fact this is the only one that I used to create the cds when I moved the pictures before. The other groups of pictures that saved correctly for some odd reason all I did was copy them to the cd drive and burn them onto the cd. Now,I couldnt tell you right now how I did it, but whatever I did worked. Easy cd creator 3 or 4 whatever was on the other pc didn' t do a good job. The thing that bugs me is that I had this feeling that I should do it both ways just in case, and didnt follow that intuition. charles, dave and gail; now, what I want to do is get all of these pictures off the computer. So if I' m following this thread correctly I move them into the cd creator and burn them onto the cd. Only question is, if I' m still keeping the original on the computer, while doing this, am I still going to have good quality, printable pictures? Now I' m confusing myself here. 
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Seventh
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/16/2002 19:12:11
Let' s start at the beginning: Problem: You have files on your computer that you want to transfer to Compact Disc (CD) using your CD-Burner and CD-Burning Software (Roxio, Easy CD-Creator, etc.). Solution: #1. Open the CD-Burning Software and follow the instructions on how to set the application settings for a successful transfer/copy/burn. This can be found in the manual that accompanied the computer and/or CD-Burner; or simply go to the help file in the CD-Burning Software and look for What' s New or Tutorial. Something that will get you started in using the CD-Burner and accompanying Software. #2. After the settings have been set you should simply be able to navigate to the folder that has the pictures in question, drag/drop/insert those files into the directory of the CD-Burner and click the appropriate button to start the transfer/burning/copying session. #3. Once the session has ended, you should check that the files you chose to import during that session have been successfully transferred. This means open up the CD icon in My Computer, click on any given file so that it opens in your image editing program (PhotoShop, Paint Shop Pro, etc.), and check to see if the file is functioning properly. #4 The quality of the pictures will (read ' should' ) be the same as the ones on your local harddrive as you are simply copying a file from one location to another without editing it in any way. The only way that you have loss in a picture is by editing the picture such as changing formats (png to jpeg), reducing colors (16 million to 256), or making aesthetic modifications with effects. In this case, this is null and void as you' re only copying a file and basically pasting it somewhere else. No loss involved. Hope this helps. I wrote this as if this was your first time simply to guide myself in my thoughts. Sometimes it' s better to start at the beginning rather than in the middle...except for golf.[:j]
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nowlkldy
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/16/2002 19:27:02
Everyone is correct. Simply burning JPEG' s to a CD will not degrade them. The become " lossy" when you work with them. As a general rule I save everything as a TIFF or BMP on my hard drive and definitely when I burn them onto a CD. The only time I convert them to JPEG is when I will be using them on the web or emailing them. To further confuse things, let me know how it goes if you use Roxio Easy CD Creator Platinum. When I installed it on my machine running XP it wiped out my CD and DVD drives from " My Computer" . I had to do a system restore. It' s a known issue, Roxio won' t fix it, and all they offer is how to go in and change registry values to correct it. I' m not that good so I dumped Roxio and went with " Click n' Burn Pro" . As far as keeping the photos on your computer, if it was a good quality photo to begin with, it will stay that way unless it' s a JPEG and you work with it a lot. Dave Seventh and I posted about the same time. His is a good, basic set of instructions. Dave
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c1sissy
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RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/16/2002 20:16:05
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Yes there is! Shutting it off!      but, sometimes even that doesn' t go properly,  I just did a critical update from windows the other night, I lost my desktop, the compputer wouldnt shut down wouldnt cooperate, I thought that I was in big trouble!! But soon it worked fine. I think that it was just tired, even with this fast pc, it took about an hour for this update!!! anyhow back to the item at hand, The roxio that I have, all I know is that it is a 5.0. Since I have a hp computer, the burning thing that came with it is theirs. Unfortunately when we loaded this computer up, I had to get a trial download of the previous cd creator because of the way that they set this up. I couldn' t view any of my previous cd burnings that were done in the easy cd creator from the windows me computer. Something to do with piracy according to hp. So I had to re-do all of my picture cd' s for some reason so that I could see them on here. I had to load all the pictures on and reburn them in a different program. A lot of work. I' m sure that there was an easier way around it, but I went through hp help on the computer and followed their directions as to what to do. Doesn' t make sense to me, but that was how it worked. I know that the cd burner program that I have now can create picture cds. So, I don' t have to change the file extension then, I just put them into the burner, and then check them before deleting the ones that are on here. lol, most likely I won' t delete, I' ll take them and put them on the cd through the file moving thing. I' m paranoid with my pictures since loosing the ones that I did. I thank you one and all for your help!! I guess you know what I' ll be busy doing this week,   Removing pictures and music from my computer!!!
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_gail
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RE: RE: Moving photos from cd to disc - 9/21/2002 15:18:51
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I just did a critical update from windows the other night, I lost my desktop, the compputer wouldnt shut down wouldnt cooperate, I thought that I was in big trouble!! I missed this ^^^ the first go around. Are you familiar with XP' s System Restore feature? Shhhhh! Windows <whisper> ME </whisper> also has System Restore. It' s not perfect but it sure has gotten me out of a lot of jams. I set a restore point...assuming I remember...before making any changes/installations/etc. which could effect the system. gail PS, how' s it going with the CD burning? btw, did you get my email to you about this?
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