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_gail -> Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 8:38:17)


I am not thinking about leaving web design forever or asking myself if I still love this stuff. I am not (how did scarednewbie put it yesterday) ready to " explode into a million pieces, better yet again, 100 million pieces."

So cool, calm and collected, I will simply ask about the first little webbie glitch I' ve encountered today:

Does an external cascading style sheet control the appearance of an Include after it is inserted into a page? The include page has an embedded stylesheet.

thanks, gail








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caz -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 8:47:04)

Hi gail

If you have embedded style in your include it will take precedence over an external style sheet. The same goes for inline style; so the order of precedence goes from small to big, as it were ( that' s how I remembered it in my class!).

inline
embedded
external

If you want the external stylesheet to apply to your whole web, you have to remove anything stylewise that might conflict.

HTH
Carol



_gail -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 10:26:14)

quote:

ORIGINAL: caz

If you have embedded style in your include it will take precedence over an external style sheet.


Yes at least I do understand this, however it' s not working. I obviously had something wrong. I decided to delete the embedded style sheet and finally got it to work using the external css.

quote:

If you want the external stylesheet to apply to your whole web, you have to remove anything stylewise that might conflict.



Can this statement be expanded upon, please?! If I recall correctly, someone once mentioned that if you use an external style sheet you should not apply any standard formatting menu commands to format text, such as bold, italic, change color, etc. Is this correct?

I use CSS ONLY to format text, not position and therefore use FrontPage to make these types of changes.

gail



caz -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 11:27:16)

Hi gail
You said:-

quote:

If I recall correctly, someone once mentioned that if you use an external style sheet you should not apply any standard formatting menu commands to format text, such as bold, italic, change color, etc. Is this correct?


Yes, that' s right because you are applying inline style and it would take precedence. When i did my first CSS site, it was on an existing formatted one and I had to go through each page removing the formatting before it (the CSS) would work.

I note from a previous thread that we both use the same CSS editor, Style Master - is that right? I use this to set margins, backgrounds and making buttons as well as text formatting. I have recently acquired Layout Master for presentaion, but have not yet even looked at it. I got sidetracked with databases.

cheers
Carol



_gail -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 11:45:02)




quote:

ORIGINAL: caz

Yes, that' s right because you are applying inline style and it would take precedence. When i did my first CSS site, it was on an existing formatted one and I had to go through each page removing the formatting before it (the CSS) would work.


But I do want to make sure I understand one thing. We are both talking about text formatting, not positioning, correct? So if I control my text with css but otherwise position and align the layout via FrontPage menu commands, I' m okay?


quote:

I note from a previous thread that we both use the same CSS editor, Style Master - is that right?


I did not use Style Master (but like it and will probably purchase it). I tweaked a style sheet used on another job which originally was created by someone else for me.

btw, what does HTH mean?

thanks a lot and cheers, too, gail



caz -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 12:05:02)

It' s me again and yes!

quote:

But I do want to make sure I understand one thing. We are both talking about text formatting, not positioning, correct? So if I control my text with css but otherwise position and align the layout via FrontPage menu commands, I' m okay?


Sorry that I finished abruptly before, but my aunt called me, she' s just moved from Seattle to near Detroit - the line was really bad today. When am I going to stay with her? What' s the best time of year for that area?

hth- hope this helps

Carol



_gail -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/29/2002 12:18:03)

quote:

ORIGINAL: caz

Sorry that I finished abruptly before, but my aunt called me, she' s just moved from Seattle to near Detroit - the line was really bad today. When am I going to stay with her? What' s the best time of year for that area?

hth- hope this helps




Yes, it certainly did help. Thank you.

For Detroit, it' s most definitely not the winter! [;)] I' m headed for Seattle soon...little nippy there too.

gail



EWD -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/30/2002 0:32:21)

Hi _gail - I' m coming to this conversation late, but if the include has an embedded style sheet it would be in the <head></head>, right? But with an included file only the body parts get used, so it sems the embedded style sheet would be ignored.

Does this make sense, or is it even germane to the question? [:)]



_gail -> RE: Another CSS quandary (10/30/2002 7:54:05)

quote:

ORIGINAL: EWD

if the include has an embedded style sheet it would be in the <head></head>, right? But with an included file only the body parts get used, so it seems the embedded style sheet would be ignored.



I' m certainly no expert but, yes, it seems to make sense. Once included, the external css had it' s effects, overriding the one embedded in the include page.

thanks so much, EWD!

gail



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