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Kitka
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Masking part of a thumbnail photo? - 5/15/2003 23:07:16
I am not sure exactly what process I need to achieve this: I have a thumbnail photo of a local identity, which has been cropped from a larger photo of him and his wife. To get the right placement of his face in a square thumbnail (100x100) it ends up with a slice of his wife' s face on one side that I want to remove or obscure somehow. The background is complicated - bricks and a window so using the clone tool (my usual standby!) won' t work.
For quite a long time I have been wishing I knew how to lift a person or group of people off a cluttered background but never known how. Can anyone help with some specific instructions please?
I have PSP 7 and access to Photo Impact 8 on another computer.
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garry
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RE: Masking part of a thumbnail photo? - 5/16/2003 1:19:25
Hard work Kitka
I would go back to the larger image (copy) and start scrubbing from there with the eraser. Lots of little strokes and enlarged so it is easy to see what you are doing. No need to be exact as it will be shrunk to 100x and look OK.
I would probably copy >paste as new layer on a backgound of bricks?? to give it a realistic feel to your original.
Or clone around him from another image..... Just the same as what you do now with the 1 image, just click on one & clone to the other.
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RE: Masking part of a thumbnail photo? - 5/16/2003 6:02:15
Kitka,
Can you post the image and then we can have a go - providing a commentary of what we did?
Cheers
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garyb
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RE: Masking part of a thumbnail photo? - 5/16/2003 9:52:30
Nice job Gail. One way I use to avoid the pasted look is with a feather. After I' ve cut out the image, like you did, I use a magic want (in photoshop) and then select modify, expand and expand the selection 2 pixes or so (depends on size/dpi of image etc). I then select, feather the same amout and delete. This makes the very edges of the image slightly transparent which allows the background to begin appearing when I place this over an image. The over all effect is to give depth to the image without any glow on it.
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Kitka
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RE: Masking part of a thumbnail photo? - 5/17/2003 2:40:42
WOW! You guys are great  Thanks heaps for the tips and guidance.
I have played around with it a bit - going back to the scan which was done at 300dpi. I liked Gail' s idea of using the original brick background and below is my end result. Does it need any further tweaking?
I was hoping to be able to leave the wisps of hair on top of his head - he is a champion windsurfer who favours the windswept look - but I didn' t manage to achieve it. I hope he won' t mind looking as though he just had a haircut [:j]
garyb - I used your suggestion of the wand and feathering, but when I did it with a white background, he ended up with a halo once pasted onto the bricks. So I changed the white to a beige which worked better.
Would you mind explaining what difference there is with the dpi? Should I have feathered more than 2 px on the 300dpi version?
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Haven' t see you post in a while, Kitka. So very nice to have you back!
Thanks Gail! My health has been troublesome, and between work and the recommended bed rest, I haven' t had much time to read Outfront for a while. I' m being very naughty at the moment, the family has gone out, and I promised I' d stay in bed and not sit at the computer   Hmm, hope they don' t read this.[:j]
I' ve missed being here, and would love to catch with everyone' s news, but must get horizontal again if I want to get better faster  ... and - the family is due back soon too!
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